EXCLUSIVE UPDATE* Arrest made in shooting near Fallbrook High School; suspect and victim both identified as felons
Wednesday, February 15th, 2012
Issue 07, Volume 16.
At shortly before 3 p.m. this afternoon, Thurs., February 16, Fallbrook Sheriff's detectives arrested a suspect in connection with the shooting of a 19-year-old man yesterday on Buena Suerte St., three blocks from Fallbrook High School.
Thomas Mark Hall, 27, a transient who stays in both Fallbrook and Oceanside, was arrested at a drug rehabilitation facility on Coastal Way in Vista. Hall, who is a felony parolee, has been booked into the Vista Jail on charges of attempted murder, armed robbery, and a felon in possession of a firearm.
Sheriff’s Sgt. Joe Montion said Hall allegedly shot Fallbrook resident Brandon Siewert in the face with a semi-automatic handgun.
"Our detectives worked virtually around the clock to find this individual and make the arrest; they did a ton of work as it was a long trail to identify this person," said Lt. Robert Haley, commander of the Fallbrook Sheriff's substation.
"This was an example of great police work."
Haley said after the shooting, "[Hall] checked himself into [drug] rehab at a facility in Vista."
Following the arrest, detectives began processing the scene where Hall was located. Further investigation led detectives back to another Fallbrook home this evening where the gun used in the shooting was located as well as another firearm that had been in Hall’s possession at the time.
"We have now located both of the firearms," confirmed Montion. "The semi-automatic was the one used in the shooting."
Haley said initial information provided by witnesses at the scene of the shooting was not accurate.
"[Hall] is not Hispanic; he is Caucasian," said Haley. "He also does not have any gang affiliation. And there did not appear to be anyone with him."
Haley said detectives are continuing to interview individuals, and Montion stated Detective Tom Vrabel assumed the lead in the investigation.
"We are trying to piece together all the details and are still conducting interviews," said Haley.
Montion said that the victim "is still alive, in critical condition, in the hospital." Unofficial sources said Siewert has been placed in a chemically-induced coma due to his injuries.
North County Fire arranged for the victim to be transported by air to Palomar Hospital Trauma Center after they responded to the emergency call regarding the shooting.
Initial interviews with Siewert were challenging, Haley said, because the victim was "somewhat uncooperative." Siewert himself had an outstanding felony warrant, relating to a prior narcotics charge.
Haley said there was an 18-year-old female inside the home at the time of the shooting and another male was inside the residence just prior to the incident.
In a previous interview relating to the crime, Haley said the residence where the shooting took place was "a house familiar to our deputies."
*This story was updated Wed., Feb. 15, 2012 at 9:45 p.m.
(previous story, Wed., Feb. 15, 2012, 12:15 p.m.)
Attempted murder near high school has officers searching for suspect
Sheriff's deputies and detectives are searching for a suspect who shot a man this morning inside a home three blocks from Fallbrook High School.
North County Fire paramedics and Sheriff's deputies responded to the emergency call at approximately 10 a.m. (Wed., Feb. 15) in the 900 block of Buena Suerte Street in Fallbrook.
"A 19-year-old male suffered a wound to the head," said John Buchanan, public information officer for North County Fire. "Our paramedics arranged for him to be taken by medical helicopter to Palomar Hospital Trauma Center."
Sheriff's Lt. Robert Haley said the victim was "shot in the face" by a suspect who has been identified as a Hispanic male in his 20s, wearing dark clothing.
"The suspect has also been described as having a small mustache and tattoos on both arms," said Haley.
Haley said the victim, whose identity has not been released, is being "somewhat uncooperative" and it is thought that the victim "knew the suspect."
"The victim himself had an outstanding felony warrant – relating to possession of narcotics," said Haley, who added that the victim was not a gang member. It is unknown whether the suspect in the shooting has gang affiliation.
Haley said it did not appear that there had been forced entry into the home, but details are still not clear as to how the incident occurred.
"There was also an 18-year-old female inside the home who is considered a witness, but she claims her view of the situation was minimal as the victim blocked her view," said Haley.
Haley said the house was familiar to deputies as other law enforcement calls have taken place there.
"It's definitely a house we have been to in the past," he said.
The Sheriff's Dept has utilized the ASTREA helicopter in its search for the suspect, but it is believed he is no longer in the immediate area.
"We have launched a full investigation and our team is working diligently on it," said Haley.
|Sick and Tired of it|
Comment #1 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:11 pm
Gangsters shooting gangsters. Bunch of low lifes.
|ready for action|
Comment #2 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm
I'm sick of this junk. These guys think they own this town. I don't think so! These are the same creeps that write graffiti on our fences and even the rocks in the santa margarita preserve. Every time I see one of them. EVERY TIME! I slow my car down and throw a nice soda on them and tell them to move on.
You know the ones I'm talking about. Pretty easy to spot. I urge more of you to step up and don't be afraid and tell this scum to go!
Comment #3 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:02 pm
its not gangster shooting gangster because the victim wasnt a gangster nor did he shoot back, so yea
|new to fallbrook|
Comment #4 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm
this happen behind my house....not so sure fallbrook was a good move.......i was told so many good things about fallbrook...... i just wanna grow old and stay happy here........
|Maybe it was, or not|
Comment #5 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm
According to NCT there was another men with the shooter.
"The suspected shooter was described as Latino, about 25 years old, with tattoos on one arm. He was wearing a black shirt, had a mustache and was possibly carrying a black semi-automatic handgun, and was with a white man, the dispatcher said"
|Old fbk local|
Comment #6 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Just doing the jobs that Americans won't do!
|Sick of it too|
Comment #7 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:00 pm
Another attempted murder in The Friendly Village.
The quality of life in Fallbrook has gone down the toilet.
|Nah this wasn't even gang related.|
Comment #8 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:14 pm
|Tired of politics|
Comment #9 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:34 pm
I am disturbed that the high school did not go lockdown. Too close for comfort!!
|Ray (the real one)|
Comment #10 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:37 pm
ready for action: They do because people just don't get it. They would rather hide behind their own political correctness in fear of speaking the truth about crime in Fallbrook and the number one cause of it. No matter if it's Fallbrook or Grantville, the reasons for all this nonsense remains a constant and if you have read my postings and op-ed's over the years, you know who these constants are, no need to say it. I live in a REAL barrio, and I see no difference between Fallbrook and where I live now. My question to you Fallbrookians, do you want your friendly village to be as it once was or just another barrio in a long list of others throughout Southern California, it's up to you and only you can envoke change, otherwise get ready for more nonsense from our friends from the south.
|Not in our town|
Comment #11 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Three blocks from the high school?!
|Kill them with kindness.|
Comment #12 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:31 pm
Prayers for Fallbrook, the victims, & the attackers. This town doesn't need any more hatred than it already has. @ready to take action; your acrimonious attacks to these scum bags obviously hasn't stopped any of them from continuing on with their shenanigans.... So what good does it do for anyone else to follow your example? Yes, what these people are doing is wrong but the way we all go about handling the situation doesn't seem right. Let law enforcement and people trained in that area of expertise handle them, rather than people doing nothing more than provoking their wrong doings.
Comment #13 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:02 pm
It's kinda hard to shoot back after being shot in the face
Comment #14 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:07 pm
Ready for action, you ain't really ready if you think a soda will win a gun battle when you throw your soda on a real gangbanger. Careful dude.
Comment #15 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Why was there not a lock down at school? Seriously? Wow.
Comment #16 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:04 pm
I dont see how grafitti can have anything to do with this, so please save your complaints for another article. I am an 18 year old female who happens to know the victom and i hope he is alrite. To all of you wrighting your rude coments, put your self in his familys situation... whats sad is you calling them "scum" or "low lives" when chances are you dont even know them.
Comment #17 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:28 pm
Just because he was wanted doesn't mean he was a bad guy.. hehas a big heart..you can't belive what the news says all the time..he wasn't a gangster..far from one..he was wanted for singing up for a drug class..not for being a gangster..please befor you get on here an bad mouth a 19 year old wite kid about being a gangster get your story straight..an don't be a coward by not puting you name...
Comment #18 | Wednesday, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:59 pm
I have known this kid (the victim) since 2004, when my son and he began their friendship at Sullivan Middle School. He is NOT part of any so-called 'gang's...but I will bet any amount of money the Latino 'shooter' is. The victim suffered from DRUG ADDICTION...like MANY others in this community. Rumor has it he was shot over a 'drug debt'. I hope it is worth life in prison, without possibility of parole for this punk shooter. The deputies are always looking for something in this town...I hope they step up and find the 'latino' shooter. I am SICK AND TIRED of the terrorism that has infiltrated what USED TO BE a decent little, Main Street town. It's a shame that the 'good' Latino's here don't seem to care much about changing the perception of all. God bless the family of this young man...it could have been any one of our kids. My prayers are with you.
Comment #19 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:23 am
pde=Punk doing emails
Comment #20 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:19 am
And, WHAT of the boy who was shot?!!! He is alive, dead? WHAT????
Village News responds - He was alive when transported to Palomar. Hospitals adhere very stringently to the privacy act - we are unable to determine his exact condition at this time. As soon as we can confirm, we will report on it. --D. Ramsey
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Comment #21 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:30 am
The victim was just a junkie been in and out of jail over drugs,prob owes the guy who shot him drug money
Comment #22 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:32 am
Probably owed him drug money
Comment #23 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:35 am
You people are sick. There's a nineteen year old kid who just got shot, and all you care about is your stupid rocks? Call them the low lifes, but you're no better if your reality is so twisted that you would rather complain about some spray paint and people hanging out on a corner instead of having compassion for a human life. I know the victim, and the family.is actually very well known in Fallbrook. So hold your tongue and pray for the family. You people are disgusting and rude. The victim was actually one of the nicest kids I've ever met. He had a few rough spots in high school, but has been clean and goes to church now as well. Think before you speak.
Comment #24 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:48 am
the victim wasn't a gang member(obviously you would know if you read the story), he was a good friend to a lot of my good friends and always brought a smile to everyones face. He may have had issues in his life with drugs but he was in no way a harm to anybody. R.I.P B.S.
Comment #25 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:43 am
let em kill each other. eventually their population will diminish!
Comment #26 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:48 am
Pde-You are correct, he didn't shoot back, Do you think that was because he wasn't a gang member or the Slight Bullet problem !!
Comment #27 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:00 am
The boy was in NO WAY a gang banger, he was an adorable young boy who had a huge heart. All of you people saying bad things about him need to take a second and think about if this was your son. Have some respect and instead of saying things like "let gang banger kill gang bangers" why don't you say things like prayers to the boys family?! Did no one ever teach you if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
|New to friendly village|
Comment #28 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:18 am
I bought a home here a year ago, I guess I should have listened to a local waitress instead of the realtor. She told us about gang issues.
I agree with Fbkmom and Ray, enough, I grew up in so beautiful So. Cal areas that are now not safe to drive through. This has got to stop and all the PC people out there who stand behind illegal immigrants and "gang" members "rights" need to start standing up for citzens and victims rights.
The police need to come in and clear out the areas.
Comment #29 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:21 am
I'm getting pretty sick of the whole labeling people gang members thing in the comments section. So is everybody who has a problem with the law and under 25 a gang member around here? I don't pretend to know the victim or what happened, but I would bet that if we had helped him work past his addiction instead of labeling him a criminal he probably wouldn't have been mixed up with this low life. Maybe we could embraced our youth as a part of the community instead of throwing sodas on them because we don't like their look.
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Comment #30 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:04 pm
There but for the grace of god...Remember that he was a human being, a child, a brother, a friend, a boy. Reach out and don't judge. Judging gives you a life of regret.
Comment #31 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:09 pm
If you cared for this boy, put pressure on the Sheriff's Dept for justice. Call the local substation and call the Sheriff's headquarters. Call the DA. Even you who judge should be making those calls. Follow through.
|Friend of Victim|
Comment #32 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm
I encourage all of you to reconsider your thoughts about this incident, not only was the victim of the shooting a young man, he was also a good person. I understand how his warrants do not paint him in a good light whatsoever, calling him "gangster lowlife", "trash", or simply a "junkie" sells this person short and is extremely disrespectful to his friends and family. Anybody who has the will to actually take their time to write such things about someone needs to really take some time and think about what type of person they are. Although there was no doubt he was headed down the wrong path, this man, like so many others before him and to come in the future, was suffering from the disease of addiction that had been affecting him for some time. Friends of his knew in the back of their minds that his habits were leading him to prison or death, yet seeing this news report about how a person you grew up with just got shot in the face is nothing short of a tragedy. I Hope those of you who read this can understand there is more to this story than just an addict's ways catching up with him. There is a very sad story that has been unfolding for a while now and this ending is not the one that people like to bring up when talking about childhood friends. I know all of the people close to him will do their best to preserve his legacy as that of a fun loving person who lost track of what was important in life, much more of a character than just some low life polluting the streets of San Diego. Hope your problems are solved my friend, I know youre in a better place now...
Comment #33 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:37 pm
All the people that are posting Bad stuff and know nothing about it get a life. How can you talk negatively about a man that's lost his life. That is so rude.
|Sick of it too|
Comment #34 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm
The kid who got shot is supposedly clean, and goes to church? Hmmm. Something doesn't add up. Old drug debt or still using.
Article said he wasn't cooperating either.
Comment #35 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm
Everyone on Facebook is posting RIP's to his page and saying he passed away from his injuries. For those who don't know him, he was a great kid, just got involved in drugs. But he was turning his life around. I wonder how long it will be before the gangs come after the girl that was with him.
Comment #36 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:05 pm
The problem with the kids in Fallbrook is the heroin that is getting the kids addicted. It's not just the gang members, it's middle class white kids that smoke it. I totally blame the drug cartels for supplying it. That's what he got shot over. It's very very sad.
Comment #37 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm
that is so sad. Poor kid, is he going to make it?
Comment #38 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm
This 19 year old "victim's" drug use, whether he wanted to be a member of a gang or not, has affiliated him with drug pushers and gangbangers. People like this "victim" are involved with illegal, criminal behavior and his "friends" that have commented above are enablers for his criminal behavior and illegal drug abuse. A true friend would not support their friend's drug use. It's actually that simple. This 19 year old is not a victim and anyone that sees him as one is enabling his drug abuse and supporting the proliferation of drug abuse in our country. Drug use isn't cool; it's a downward spiral of increasing drug use and increasing criminal acts. I don't want anyone like this "victim" living next door to me and bringing that violence close to my home. And I certainly don't develop friendships with people that have drug addictions and have the ability to bring this type of violence to my home. Drug use kills people and talking about what a nice guy he is doesn't change that. I hear that Whitney Houston was a nice person too.
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Comment #39 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Comment #40 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:42 pm
stfu reality check. People have problems that cant be ignored
you need to think before you type!
Comment #41 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Has the victim passed away now? Is it ok to state who it is?
Comment #42 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Mcleod seems to often write in and defend the under belly of Fallbrook's society. Strange.
Comment #43 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Drugs are bad.. Mmmkay?
Stick to pot. You don't get shot in the face over pot. You get shot in the face over heroin and crack.
Lol'd at victim was uncooperative though... kinda hard to cooperate when you've been shot in the face.
|Could have seen it coming|
Comment #44 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:10 pm
This kind of stuff happens with drug use. Violence and negative outcomes aren't a shock when hard drugs are involved. For everyone who says "he was a victim and had a problem," maybe a little more time should have been spent helping his known problem and this wouldn't have happened.
As for the shooter, hopefully they catch him and put a bullet in his face as well. If you're going to tell me the shooter needs rehabilitation too then you're just dumb and blind to what's happening today.
Comment #45 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:49 pm
I've read these comments and can't believe that people are so cold hearted. I don't live in the area and don't know anyone involved, but came across this story through a post I saw. The importance of life has become so poor that people worry about their home values, and rocks. Then there are those who call the victim names, and sit in judgement of his life without knowing him, or what caused his drug issues as if they had the right to judge anyone. I hope for your sake that Christ does not judge you in the same manner. My heart goes out to this young man's family and friends...and to you, the reader who post such rude, arrogant posts with no regard for who it would hurt. There but by the grace of God go you. It is my hope and prayer that this community bands together for the common good, rather than publicly flogging a young man who was trying to turn his life around. Think about what you would want posted about you, or a family member of yours prior to posting your comments. Let's show some class and respect.
Comment #46 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Who is this and if he has passed away, will there be an update?
Comment #47 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm
To all of the people that are posting hateful and negative statements about the victim: YOU ARE DISGUSTING. What if that was someone you knew and loved? How would it make you feel to see such terrible things being said by people that have NO idea what the situation was? Well if you can't grasp the concept, you would feel hurt and attacked by the people of this so called "Friendly Village." All of you that are complaining about how the friendly village has turned to junk ... TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR. It's people like you that spread hate and trouble wherever you go or whenever you decide to open your big mouths. It is so wrong of you to judge the victim. Whether he had a problem with drugs or not, that doesn't mean that he wasn't a good person. He was still a human being and deserves more respect than most of you people. If someone called your loved one terrible names or said that they deserved to die, you would be pissed off, so why is it okay for you to pass judgement? IT'S NOT. If God judged you on the same level that you're judging the victim, you would all be doomed. So here's some advice: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, RESPECT GRIEVING FRIENDS&FAMILY, and if you're the epitome of perfect, STOP HIDING BEHIND A KEYBOARD. Seriously, you people disgust me. Stay classy Fallbrook. Oh wait... it's to late for that. Maybe it would be better if you just keep your mouths shut instead of spreading slander about someone you DON'T EVEN KNOW. My prayers and condolences go out to the victim's family. Nobody deserves to go through this tragedy. Rest in Peace&hope to see you again someday.
Comment #48 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:24 pm
all of you people should just shut it and show some respect. He had a problem, and was trying to turn his life around. But he was a good kid and if you think you can judge him based on this short article you don't know anything
Comment #49 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm
you people complain that fallbrook isn't "the friendly village" anymore and that it's full of evil. well you're no better - coming onto an article about someone who was shot and yes, has passed away, and saying it's a good thing they were killed makes you a good person? i've known this kid since middle school and he was a very nice person. just because someone has done drugs, doesn't mean they're a horrible person. so just keep your mouths shut and start being the friendly village that you're supposed to be. don't judge someone by a news article. be polite and pay respects to him and his family. imagine if this was your son or good friend and you came on here and read all these hateful comments. i could sit here and go off all day but that won't make a difference because this "friendly village" is just full of cowards these days. RIP B.
Comment #50 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Maybe if we didnt have so many illegals in this town raising there kids to be punks. This is supposed to be a nice friendly village but the mexican population is riseing here so much yu hardly see any white peopleworking at the businesses here
Comment #51 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:23 pm
This was someone's son people. He was also my friend. At a time he knew better not I get involved with the wrong people. Society has fallen because we let it. Get some real perspective don't just throw soda at people
Comment #52 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:06 pm
To all of you attacking the character of the victim you should be ashamed of yourselves. To judge someone when you truly have no idea what kind of person he was is what is causing this violence. Blind hatred of any kind towards another human being breads violence and is just as much of a problem as drug addiction and gangs. I feel everyone needs to take a step back and get off their high horses and realize that people make mistakes. This was a young man just beginning his life, he could have made a difference or been a positive influence once he cleaned up his life as someone stated he was doing. I wasn't a close friend but have heard that this young man brought so much light and happiness to these peoples lives, and after reading that it's hard to believe that others who do not know him describe him as "scum." He seems to have made many positive impacts on many peoples lives, so I think for his memory and families sake remember the good and let go of the bad and let him rest in peace.
Comment #53 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:28 pm
I heard the kid is still alive and the white guy who shot him was arrested.
|dont know this kid|
Comment #54 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm
i dont know the young man that passed away however i know many people who do know him. no one is saying his drug use was ok and if the story is true he may have died because of his addiction. however a mother and a father has lost their son. A family is grieving. How would you feel if your child lost their life and people could say it negative things. Let this family grieve. All you parents out their hug your children, you never know when that is the last time you will see them.
Comment #55 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:48 pm
People who don't know the victim personally need to shut up. No one here knows what they are talking about and all you are doing is slandering a poor kids name. You all should feel ashamed!
I am a Fallbrookian, lived here pretty much my whole life. I know how the village is. I went to school with the victim, and know most of his friends. He is nothing that you people are making him out to be. I'm tired of all you posters and the Village news making people seem to be criminals when in reality NO ONE knows what they are talking about. Almost all the posters here don't know what they are talking about.
Think before you type.
|Friends? not exactly|
Comment #56 | Thursday, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:38 pm
All you supposed "great" friends who are acting so insulted over what people are saying about a FELON, with a warrant, who was shot in a place where other lowlifes hang out only have yourselves to blame. Turning his life around? Doesn't sound like it. If he was such a great person then why didn't you all make the tough decisions it takes to make sure he got help. You didn't. Case closed. You only have yourselves to criticize. If you know any other good people in this situation, you might want to do something.
|Just wanted to add my 2 cents|
Comment #57 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:14 am
First of all, just about everyones on drugs in Fallbrook and stuff like this happens when your an addict. Yess it's sad it happened to Brandon, but it could of happened to anyone. The latest report states he's still alive in critical condition, but was put into a chemically enduced coma. They've also arrested Thomas Hall, they found the gun used to shoot Brandon at a residence of his. Weather the shooting was over drug money or whatever, it doesnt make the situation any better. A young man was shot, and if you dont have grief for him or his family, thats simply wrong.
Comment #58 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:47 am
to everyone who is talking down on him... you obviously didnt know him whoptey frickin do! he had a problem... just like EVERY SINGLE PERSON TYPING ON HERE! nobody! is pefect! NOBODY! and if you think you are going to better yourself by talking down on someone who was NINTEEN and got SHOT IN THE FACE you have bigger problems than anyone im sorry
Comment #59 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:52 am
You've clearly never been around anyone with this kind of problem because hes 19 he can't be forced into rehab but yes everyone was trying to help and he was coming around. Show some repect
Comment #60 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:09 am
As I read the article I was thinking about the reasons why I want to move from here then I read the comments. The so called people that care about Fallbrook are just as bad as the gangmembers or criminals. Filled with pure hate and ignorance. I'm guessing your parents can't be proud. So much disrespect
Comment #61 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:14 am
Wow. The trolls are in rare form on this one. Not content to spew their ignorant trash talk at the victim, now they outright berate the friends and family. I even saw the obligatory "it's the Mexican's fault" comment. I don't care what this kid put in his body he didn't deserve to get shot in the face. From what I can gather from the people that actually seem to know him he is well loved.
Comment #62 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:14 am
@friends not exactly - really? you're going to sit there and blame his friends for his death? yeah he had a warrant for drugs, but that doesn't automatically make him a bad person. don't judge people by some biased article.
this kid is dead and all you guys can do is criticize him for a bad past. just drop it and be respectful.
|This is rough.|
Comment #63 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:32 am
I dont know this guy personally, but I saw the posts on Facebook long before I heard any news about it. He clearly had a lot of people who cared about him. My thoughts and prayers are with his family and those who were close to him. No one deserves this.
Comment #64 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:13 am
"Friends? Not exactly" You're an xxxx. Go do your ranting somewhere else. People here are grieving and your Monday morning quarterbacking isn't helping anyone or anything. Just because you want to sit here and judge this kid doesn't make you any better than him. He got caught up with the wrong crowd and made some mistakes, yes, but I'm sure he was a nice guy. I didn't know him personally but I know many people who did. Just close the page, your services aren't needed here. Let these people say their condolences and move on with your day. Sitting here talking in a negative manner about someone who is passed away is absolutely terrible. Get up and move on with your life, while these people say nice things about someone who did nice things with his time here on our planet. Lets all take a moment and remember a life of a son, friend, and a human being. Instead of talking bad about the life he lead, lets discuss the positive things he brought to this world, and lets act as the "friendly village" that we're supposed to be.
|Such Good Boys|
Comment #65 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:33 am
Ya, I know both of them. Both such great young men and OUTSTANDING model citizens. They both "only" have felony convictions. Narcotics, automatic weapons, directly across the street from the high school. Right...the dirge of the earth!
Comment #66 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:57 am
For all those people that just assume that all the crimes are by hispanics and gang members!!! You see all races have people that commit crimes open your eyes and stop being so ignorant!!!! Every race has good and bad people, gang members, and drug users!!! Both victim and suspect were white!!! Society is the way it because of people like you that are so ignorant!!
Comment #67 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:47 am
This is what happens when you get into hardcore drugs and hang out with the wrong crowd. Parents; BE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON YOUR CHILDREN. Don't let them do Meth and other bad influential drugs.
Comment #68 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:57 am
My heart goes out to the young mans family and friends who are dealing with much a sad lost. I apologize for all the ugly rude comments people have made. It just makes you realize that at the end of the day our community can not look past the race or mistakes people do and will point fingers all day long. Hey FBKMOM no Latino killer here it was Thomas M Hall white male not gang related. We Latinos have a very good firm perception but you'll never see it. Every race has it. Not all white people are whitetrash. You can not always blame it on the Latinos legal and illegal for the wrong choices our youth makes. Drugs have always been around Woodstock for example lots and lots of drugs there who do you think the parents blamed back then. Not Latinos! Who got the youth of those days all strung-out? Ignorance it what it comes to people. There's no way you can accuse a whole population for a problem that's always existed. The truth we Americans consume more drugs then any other and we still look down on it. Unfortunately its part of our culture here. We as a community should help these people and make it a point that we want our town drug free! Stop pointing fingers it's EVERYONE not only one race is the problem it's the whole community.
Comment #69 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:42 am
Thank you for the update and for those people who "fear for their lives" in this town over people struggling w/addictions...Alzheimer's is like Addiction in that the person you love is STILL in there, trapped, but STILL present. I would hope all who care about him and even those horrible people who really can't even be considered a part of our community w/the way they feel about others, w/their insane rants, WILL call the DA's office and insist on NO bail and follow this case thru so a monster who cares so little for human life is NEVER allowed on our streets again! Rarely am I proud of the Sheriff's Dept, but this was a good job! Make that call to the DA.
|Ray (the real one)|
Comment #70 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:19 am
To be fair, yes.... an Anglo did this crime but.... if this was the only crime in Fallbrook, it would be Mayberry but it's not. All too often the crimes resemble the menu at Alberto's and since 99.9% are of "a certain group" people get "numb" but to hear of "one" stupid crime committed by someone other than a "certain" ethnic group even throws me for a loop. But honestly, if Fallbrook only had crimes committed by the ethnic group of "this" crime, I would be living in Fallbrook because crime would be 000.001%. I pick "pale face crime" over "rice and beans" any day.
Comment #71 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:24 am
I made a call to the DA and will KEEP making the calls. Won't you? Especially the young adults who care about the victim. It is time you stepped up and changed our world! San Diego District Atty-main office 619-531-4040. Vista District Atty - prosecutor 760-806-4141 p / 760-806-4162 fax. Express your horror and anger. Take and KEEP that monster who values life so little OFF our streets! Follow through.
Comment #72 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:27 am
Can't take this violence anymore here in Fallbrook. I'm going back to my native town of Ciudad Juárez where it is a little more peaceful.
Comment #73 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:39 am
All you people are so messed up. Brandon made some bad choises but he is human and a kid... I'm sure all of you people talking bad stuff were kids at one point and made some wrong choises. Just imagine if this was your kid... No one deserves this no matter what choices they have made! My prayers go out to him, his family, and friends!
Comment #74 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:46 am
I feel sorry for all of you out there that are so quick to judge without knowing all the facts. Deal with your own issues before you start labeling and pointing fingers like children. I will pray for you to come to this realization. God bless.
Comment #75 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:17 am
I AM SO ANGERED BY SUPPOSED "PERFECT" FALLBROOK RESIDENTS. news flash, this stuff happens everywhere. sadly, fallbrook isn't as perfect as you've cracked it out to be. you people who bash on someone who was shot in the face DISGUST ME. as for being one of his friends, no one can help someone if they don't help themselves, its all about support. so if you think we are the reason he is in the place he is or that he somehow deserved it for his previous actions, YOU ALSO DISGUST ME. don't try and act like you knew anything about him, his life, or his family. you people are so cold hearted. THANK GOD he is still alive. he is an amazing person, he will get through this.
Comment #76 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:39 am
you people have made this. this society is all your own doing, very sad. it will never change until you change.
Comment #77 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Is anyone able to read? He hasn't passed away. It's hard to take anything else that is in a comment seriously if even that most basic fact is wrong.
I get the impression that this didn't happen at his residence, and the sheriffs say they have made frequent visits.
Does anyone know if there is a well known crack house or hang out there on Buena Suerte?
Comment #78 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:28 pm
Ray, many times I tend to agree with you, but you blew it on this one. Please, site your verifiable source that 99.9% of crimes are committed by "a certain group". Also, please quote your source that 0.001% of crimes are committed by the rest of the population. Really? With a 59 year family history in Fallbrook, I can guarantee you that the crime rate was never that low, even before the Bracero program of the forties. Please continue to share your opinions, but you might want to steer clear of the statistical slippery slope.
Comment #79 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Nahhh this isn't even close to gang F:. related ! Tf aahhaha
Comment #80 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Anyone who says it is gangsters shooting gangsters is sadly misinformed. The victim was not a gangster. Sure he had a problem with drugs, but in the time I knew him he never hurt anyone.
Comment #81 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Reality Checks and Friends Not Exactly need a reality check themselves. I can guarantee you that your neighbors and friends use drugs and you don't know it. Drugs are so prolific in this town and in San Diego County because of the greed associated with dealing. Your "high horse" attitudes enable the problem to get worse by spouting judgments of condemnation on others and doing nothing else to help the problem. Do you volunteer for a high school teenage program that helps keep kids away from drugs? Do you provide some kind of healthy activity on a weekend night in this town for kids to participate in besides high school sports that have limited room for players or a neighborhood party? Do you open your home and hearts to kids to give them a safe place to go if they need it? Do you volunteer at a drug rehab or support a program to help keep people off drugs? Before you judge, decide to move away, or throw sodas, rocks, or shout profanities to people, wake up and do something positive that will make this town an great example of how a community can make their town a better place to live. Some of our local churches have programs and Young Life is available to kids too. However, they desperately need volunteers to help. Stop talking and start doing something.
Comment #82 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:32 pm
@ Ray - yes... please give us more "pale face crime" and reduce "rice and bean" crime!
@Juan - that was a good one... Cuidad Juarez "where it is a little more peaceful". Was there recently could not wait to leave!
Comment #83 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Rumor is the house belongs to a relative of one of SD Sheriff's own! Proof it touches ALL!
Comment #84 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:16 pm
First, and foremost, a huge KUDOS to the Fallbrook sheriff deputies and detectives who worked diligently to make an arrest in this case. THANK YOU. Secondly, my apologies for presuming that what one reads in the media is correct. This 'mistake' was apparently generated by the 'witness' to the crime. I will not, however, apologize for the gang related comments...if you look at SD County arrests statistically, there are far more arrests of Latinos, illegal, or not, in this county than any other ethnic population. Spend an afternoon in the courts in Vista, or walk into the lobby of the Adult Probation dept.,...a WHOLE lot more Latino faces there than Caucasian. There is a serious Latino gang problem in 'the Friendly Village'. It is something that cannot be ignored. Nor is it going away. A person DOES get jaded! I guess the answer is to move out of town and let them have it. As for the drug problem, it is still my understanding that most of the drugs brought into this community...into Southern Calif., come via Mexico. I guess the country needs SOME form of gross national income, other than US dollars being sent back 'home'. So much for 'the WAR ON DRUGS' this country has invested so heavily in (for what? the last 30 years?)...I think it is time they invest that money in the addicts rehabilitation (those who DESIRE it), and to maintain our law enforcement. As for Brandon, set the record straight by noting that his felony arrest warrant was for 'failure to appear' at his last court date. Yes, he was arrested for drugs recently. I wonder if it was one valium in his pocket, or scrappings from a piece of foil, or hash pipe, that garnered him a 'felony' conviction...like another of his friends. Do you have any idea how 'drug rehabilitation' works in our court systems these days? Our state is so broke (any idea WHY?), that it cannot AFFORD to get drug addicts into a program. Yes, they MANDATE it, but it is up to the drug addict to find his own help. There ARE still states in the US that CAN afford to treat drug addicts, by the way. I'm just not sure how many families in Fallbrook have $3,000 (minimum!) to $15,000 to spend on a rehab program, despite how much they love, educate, hope and PRAY (along with anyone who cares enough to help), that their kids will come out 'the other end' alive, and have a future to look forward to. I know that was what the Siewert family provided Brandon. Drug addiction is a disease...most cancers are easier to treat than drug/alcohol addiction. Drug addiction in Fallbrook is probably up there, or close to the 'gang' problem...can they BOTH be 'treated'? These 'good' kids get TRAPPED in a legal system, in addition to their addiction, and the road ahead looks pretty darn DIM for them. Brandon SAID he 'was clean', or 'wanted to be clean', depending upon who he was speaking to. He was NOT. In the past couple of months (since being arrested...which was NOT for meth or heroin) he DID 'fall in' with a bad crowd, and began using a drug he had not previously used...meth. Many of his friends warned him, and his family DID care. Judging by the people he was spending time with (METH addicts and dealers), his friends saw something like this coming, and let Brandon know. Brandon always exhibited a 'trusting nature', however. I am certain, that when faced with a gun to his face, he believed that 'the transient felon' could, and would, not do it. So, there you go...to all of the other 'good' kids out there who are struggling with addiction, YES, it CAN happen to YOU. What Brandon's FRIENDS 'know' of Thomas Mark Hall (I guarantee you most have never heard of him, nor know his real name), is that he was 'some tweeker dude that just got out of prison last year' (let's not forget that he, too, has a family out there somewhere, who like likely dealt with his addiction with 'tough love'...you know, throwing them out to the wolves on the street). Evidently, he was so far GONE on the drug that he was capable of something so horrific. Since this state's prisons are so over-crowded, I guarantee (despite calls to the DA) the deputies will see this guy on the streets of 'the Friendly Village' again, at some point. To the Siewert family...it is time to get ourselves and our kids OUT OF THIS TOWN...even our local deputies offer that recommendation. My heart and prayers go out to this family and ALL who are living with and/or struggling with addiction. From a 'mom's' point of view, Brandon WAS an endearing kid...until drugs put their grip on his life. Even then, he usually had a smile on his face, and exhibited a kind heart. I truly did care for Brandon, which is why I told him (and my son) to stay away from each other until they were BOTH 'clean', last time I saw him, a few short weeks ago. I do not know what Brandon's 'prognosis' is, but, I hope that the Siewert family considers Brandon's future 'quality of life', in respect to his current medical care. We shared the 'loss' of our sons (GOOD kids, LOVED by their large group of friends, with a GREAT deal of POTENTIAL) to drugs, which, in itself, is a tragedy of which NO one can judge the depth, unless you have lived through it yourself. Thankfully, my son is, at least, currently using a 'prescription drug to detox from another prescription drug'...which is still 'walking a tight rope', as far as I am concerned. I still live my life 'holding my breath'. Addicts are not capable of making 'CLEAR choices'. This could easily have been my son. I think, in part, because of this, my heart is SO heavy with grief for you (Brandon's family). People of the community, students and teachers in our schools, law enforcement...PLEASE open your EYES and recognize that addiction is a DISEASE, one that is probably the most DIFFICULT to heal from (as with cancer, there is NO 'cure'...you are only in remission, for the remainder of your life). This is a heart-wrenching story, in every aspect. We can only pray that God will (someday) work a miracle in this community, and that the addicts look to Him for a miracle. Remember, God wants to be your first choice... NOT your last resort. Good luck, and God bless.
|drug program resident|
Comment #85 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:27 pm
The shooter was actually taken into custody at the drug program in Vista by two State Parole Agents from the Oceanside Parole Unit and passed off to the Sheriff's deputies.
Comment #86 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:38 pm
KMA, so, rumor has it that the house the shooting took place in, which sounds like it's also a drug house, belongs to a deputy's family member there on Buena Suerte?
|hang in there brandon|
Comment #87 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Brandon is a nice guy its sad something like this would happen to him. He was not and is not a "gangster". May have done drugs but he is a good person. He definitely would not do this to another person. "Thomas hall" the shooter is a nothing! Too bad the cops got to him first.
Comment #88 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:54 pm
fbkmom -- Well said.
Comment #89 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:56 pm
There needs to be a town meeting, where we can all meet and figure out ways to shut this type of crap down and get our beautiful town back to where it was. I think if we also check U.S. citizens at the door, we can get quite a bit of issues out of the way. There has got to be a start in stopping this nonsense, and if we pull together as a town we can combat a lot of problems and not just this subject here. You would be surprised about how much we could accomplish as a team, or town. I also have another idea that I will personally look into, we had a similar problem in my old town, and we were able to tackle it as a whole, with a little help from some friends. Keep your chin up people, there is a change-a-comin.
Comment #90 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm
I must admit, the Berry Bell & Hall advertisement in the middle of this article made me chuckle a little bit.
Comment #91 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:02 pm
Brandon was definately not a gang banger, so stop with all of your "gang banger" comments. As you all know, everybody makes mistakes. It is unfortunate that this had to happen to him, but hopefully someone will learn from it. My heart goes out to ALL of his family and friends, and I wish him a fast recovery.
|Learn how to read people|
Comment #92 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:22 pm
It was not a gangster shooting a gangster both the victim and the shooter are white stop being so racsist and automatically assuming they were mexican gangsters for those of you who claim to be from fallbrook you should know that theres just as many low life white people as there are mexicans.
Comment #93 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Town Meeting - I'll be there and I'll bring my friends and neighbors. I challenge everyone else on this post to do the same.
|Student At FHS|
Comment #94 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:51 pm
Near High School And There Was No Lockdown?
What is this , the shooter could have ran to the school to hide. -,-
Comment #95 | Friday, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:27 pm
fbkmom - FINALLY, a REALIST mom! I have enjoyed your commentary on many stories. Fallbrook NEEDS ppl like you!
Comment #96 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:17 am
fIRST OFF i WANT TO ASK HAS ANYONE THOUGHT WHAT THESE RUDE DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS ARE DOING TO HIS FAMILY? dO ANY OF YOU KNOW THIS PERSON AND CAN 100% SAY FOR SURE HE WAS IN A GANG OR ON DRUGS AT THE TIME THIS HAPPENED? iS ANYONE ON THIS PAGE PERFECT? pLEASE STAND UP AND SHOUT IT OUT BECAUSE i CAN PROMISE YOU THAT YOU HAVE DIRTY LAUNDRY AS WELL YOU WOULD NOT WANT PUT OUT THERE LIKE THIS. WHY DON'T YOU USE YOUR VOICE TO HELP TURN THINGS AROUND AND GIVE THE YOUTH OF THIS TOWN A REASON TO CHANGE AND BRING MORE INTO THIS TOWN FOR THEM TO DO THEN ACT LIKE OLD HAGS CRYING ABOUT THE GOOD OLD DAYS THAT WERE REALLY CRUD IN THE FIRST PLACE.......... SHEESH!!!! GROW UP PEOPLE OF FALLBRROK AND TAKE TIME TO HELP SOMEONE...... IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN THIS VILLAGE IS DOING A BAD JOB.
|Fallbrook Resident Lindeman|
Comment #97 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:07 am
It is the "broken window" effect. See article titled "Broken Windows" by James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling, The Atlantic Monthly, March 1982 and http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704823004576192673060882298.html
Once you bag up “no parking” and “no stopping” signs for personal convenience that sends a message that the law is to be followed in all cases except of course in any case where you consider it inconvenient to follow that law. If one rule is temporary why not are all? If you can bag one section of the CVC anytime you want why not bag it all?
|Thinking of you lil b.|
Comment #98 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 9:09 am
For those of you that know Brandon, he was such an awesome kid. He could always make you smile, laugh, and make you feel better no matter what. He was such a happy person with a HUGE heart. Hearing this news broke our hearts. From what I hear from my husband, growing up with you was ALWAYS a good time. You were always such a great friend, you would do anything for your friends. I had never met anyone with such great spirits all the time. We haven't seen you recently, and I heard you were going the wrong direction in your life. But as a child you were always a fighter, even though you were the smallest one, and you will fight your way through this one. You and your family are in our hearts and prayers.
|your ignorance= hate|
Comment #99 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:37 am
The hatred & ignorance of racists people who jump to conclusions & judge anyone who looks different than them are the reason why this old town will never be the "friendly village" you are figthing to get back.open your eyes,things have changed,equal rights for everyone,you will never be able to "get rid of the scum" because you too make up part of the low life scum you judge,to those who are open minded to all races & try to help those who need it,you are looked down upon just like you look down on a yound man who has lost his life to a WHITE man,NOT a mexican gangmember,which shouldn't even be the issue,the importance of this matter is that someone has lost his life,someone lost their son,bother,friend..& all you cold hearted racists seem to see is hatred for others who are not even involved.its sad to see how you all hide at home passing judgement onto others when I know for a fact everyone on these comments know or have someone in their lives with drug problems.get over yourselves & let the family mourn & stop talking nonsense sh*t that you have no right to comment on.
Comment #100 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:24 pm
|jon o / dh|
Comment #101 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm
thats why i stick to weed no drama
Comment #102 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Sounds like Fallbrook's version of the 'First 48'. I like it!
May the young man survive, heal well and allow this encounter to be the wake up call he so desperately appears to have been needing. I pray for his parents and those that care about him (as demonstrated by comments above) can be strong enough to encourage it and move forward.
fbkmom - your comment, albeit lengthy, hits many points straight on. I, too, have had to deal with a child caught up in the scourge of meth and it is not a pleasant experience. It's a vice grip of addiction that many are not strong enough to get released from. For those bashing the parents, your argument is weak. One cannot prevent it, if it is meant to be, nor force change upon a person until they are ready for that change to take place. Intact two-parent homes, a loving environment, sports, church, boy/girl scouts, youth groups, etc cannot stop some from making poor decisions / choices all the time (we had it all and then some). I am happy for those who have never had to suffer it in their personal lives, directly or vicariously, but don't bash all of those who have.
Decriminalizing drugs will not work, because no matter how weak you make drug laws (thus potentially reducing the 'cost' of their fix) those same addicts will still continue to burglarize and steal from others to support their habits; and sometimes progress to this abhorrent behavior. Do we want MORE of these folks on our streets? I think not. But, making available the help needed to beat those addictions is a worthwhile investment for those that truly want it; but imprisonment for those that do not.
That's my .02
Comment #103 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I grew up in Fallbrook and used to be friends with Brandon in middle school. I believe that NO ONE deserves for this to happen to them whether they are using drugs or not. Brandon was a sweet boy and like many others above me had mentioned he always had a smile on his face. He was friendly and kind and regardless of this incident that is always how I will remember him.
There are many young people in Fallbrook and all over the US that suffer from drug addiction and just because they have gotten wrapped up in the wrong things does not make them bad people. For those of you who have never known anyone with a drug problem it might be easy to judge and classify them as bad people but do you really think this is what they want from their life? Yes they've made bad choices but they don't want to be drug addicts either. They try to get their life back on track but addiction of any sort is such a serious disease. They need support to get their lives back on track not judgement. Those of you who are so quick to turn your backs on someone who needs help are the reason things escalate this far. Brandon was a caring person and needs to be kept in our thoughts and prayers.
& For those who are saying such bad things about the Fallbrook community... these incidents happen everywhere, not just in Fallbrook. I wouldn't trade growing up in Fallbrook for anything. I have made great life long friends, belong to an amazing church, throughly enjoyed my high school years, and now have moved away and am on my way to a bright future. I could go on and on about the reasons why I love Fallbrook and the amazing things this town can do when we come together. I do believe that it is a friendly village and has an amazing sense of community support.
When Jacob Robinson was in a car accident driving home from football practice the town truly came together as one. I know based on the comments above me and everyone's judgmental approach that sadly this will not happen for Brandon but I still believe it should. Although he was associated with drugs (I don't know to what extent) he is still a victim and like I said no one deserves this. The bigger the support system people have the more likely they are to succeed.
Brandon is in my prayers and I pray that if he makes it through this you will turn off your judgement and give him your love & support. For that is the only way that he can overcome this and begin his way towards a brighter future.
Comment #104 | Saturday, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Any update on Brandon's condition?
Comment #105 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:43 am
The place is not owned by a deputy director... Who made that up? Lol. Keep making stuff up though, i hear theres gold buried there too! Anyone even care about the people that actually own the place??? Sucks for them too, you know. Seriously though,That road is totally peaceful and a nice neighborhood to grow up in. It's just a totally weird and sad that this could happen to anyone.
Comment #106 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:25 am
It says he is in a medically induced coma. What nitwit spread the rumor that he was dead all over Facebook?
Comment #107 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:56 pm
Go the start of this thread to see who first gave out the wrong information about Brandon being dead. Should be easy enough to see who started the rumor on Facebook.
The incorrect information about who shot Brandon was given by he, himself, or the girl who was with him at the time. Blame them for starting that misinformation.
THEY are to blame for the lies about who shot him. Others just commented on it.
Yeah, drug addicts and pushers were all somebodies little boy or girl. That doesn't change the fact that they bring crime and danger to anyone unlucky enough to be around them now that they are adults and addicts, and they steal, prostitute and kill because of thier habit, making life around them hellish and dangerous.
Comment #108 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:25 pm
My suggestion to everyone in Fallbrook, start reporting crimes you see instead of turning a blind eye to everything. Don't be stupid and take the law into your own hands leave it to the ones trained to handle it, we don't need a lynch mob or anything. When you hear a domestic make the call...it could be one of these thugs with warrants or a drug dealer. I lived in an apartment complex in Fallbrook and I am not stretching the truth when I say approx. 15 people came out of their apartments to see what the yelling was about one night, when they realized it was a domestic, they went back in their aparts., shut off the lights and went back to bed. I was the only one who reported it, and the Sheriff was there within mins. of my call and the man was arrested. He never came back to the property. People get in a situation and second guess if they are over reacting, should I or shouldnt I call. CALL...let the sheriff decide if they need to check it out.
Comment #109 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:23 pm
The only reason I heard he was dead is because he mother said so on Facebook.
Comment #110 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:50 pm
Has a friend to the family of this young man, I ask that prayer surrounds him as he recovers from the physical the emotional and addiction. As a mother of a son in recovery, I knew your judgment and hurt you cause by not understanding addiction. As a child that grew up here and a graduate from the high school that now has children growing up in this town, it is not the same. It has changed drastically.
Drugs are a huge problem in this community. Watch the sherrifs logs in village news. The kids get it in the schools and streets. My teenage sons says " it's fallbrook, you can get drugs everywhere". I encourage parents to drug test your kids randomly and reguarly. Then you know. Maybe you can help save them before addiction takes over.
Prayer and never judge. Because It can and is happening to our good children.
Comment #111 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:16 pm
Brandon is in a medically induced coma. Please everyone pray for him and his family. I know the owners of the house, they lived in that house for 10 years without any incidents like this...and also raised their kids, so it is a safe place to live. Wish they will return soon so that they don't have to have renters. Oh, no Gold, just Gophers...LOL
Comment #112 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:57 pm
I heard from a reliable source that Brandon is being released from ICU. So glad he'll have a second chance. You can do your best and kids will do what kids will do. Poor children with no parental figures can go to Harvard, an intact family of four kids can have two that do well and two that don't, free will. My thoughts are with the Siewerts, much love to you all.
Comment #113 | Sunday, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Look there is going to be violence wherever you live. I have lived in Fallbrook for all of my 19 years and I love it more than anything. But I am sick and tired of hearing people say "let them shoot each other, eventually their population will die out" how would you feel if your son got shot in the face, no matter what the reason have some sympathy and unfreeze your heart. These negative comments make me sick and do not help the poor guy who is in the hospital fighting for his life! This guy was one of the nicest and greatest I have ever met and just because of unfortunate circumstances you are going to turn your back and be completely rude to the people who love him and hope he returns?
If your going to be negative keep it to yourself, don't bring us people with hope that he survives down.
Comment #114 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:35 am
Tragic. A good kid gets involved in drugs the THIS happens. I hope every parent sits down with his / her child and discusses not only the news story but also the comments submitted by the people who know the victim.
Comment #115 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:10 am
That's a start, pooh sticks. And get to them at an early age! Once they get a taste - it is almost impossible to break them away quickly.
|Wake up call|
Comment #116 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Learning and training starts at an early age and at "HOME" people. We need to blame the parents....not the world. I see that parents are scared of their children even at a young age. Need to go back and ask grand parents for advice in raising kids.
Comment #117 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm
@fbkmom - The Fallbrook Sheriff's pulled a pocketful of Meth out of his pocket after he was shot. All broken down & ready for distribution. Yeah, great kid. The kinda kid I want hanging around. His friends know the deal.
|DON'T READ OR READ IT|
Comment #118 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm
A some people believe in politics a lot of people believe in their politics a lot more than other............so don't judge them and they don't judge you
|Victims cousins girlfriend|
Comment #119 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:02 pm
I know everything that happened and why it happened. About 95% of you are completely wrong. It was NOT gang related or drug related. Everyone needs to stop spreading stupid rumors about this. If you are not family and don't know what happened, stop talking.
|3 year res to Fallbrook|
Comment #120 | Monday, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:40 pm
I don't want to jump on the band wagon, but, I want to say: When I first read this paper I loved the fact that people posted notes. I loved to read them & couldn't wait to read the new posts. I soon saw a pattern of the same person posting over & over again. More posts were to that one person then the event. That person now doesn't even live in Fallbrook anymore, it seems. Yet posts as much as before, just to get a rise out of people. Please, isn't there a way to ban his kind of " writing on the walls" of Fallbrook. Right or wrong, feels small & posts his "tags" to feel big. Why can't you block him? I don't like to read the paper anymore. I have no problem with bad news or the fact that bad things happen in the world/ Fallbrook. But,the paper is not about just him.The paper can help us find the missing child or the posted face of a shoplifter. It's not to be filled up by people with no other outlet in life. My husband is an over 20 year Marine, I get the idea he is ranting about but, this is not his soapbox. Thank you for your ear, this was my first & only post.
Comment #121 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:20 am
yes, please block RAY
Comment #122 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:55 am
Seems like lots of people want to tell others to shut up on this forum. Look at #119 and #120, for example, or many others ahead of them. Disagreeing with a viewpoint isn't enough to call for a ban or to silence others.
#119 Victims Cousins Girlfriend....if it wasn't over drugs, what was it about then? Seriously, you expect people to believe that 2 addicts involved in a shooting and it wasn't about drugs or money? Enlighten us.
This time it was 2 addicts and not gang related. Someone tried to make it sound gang related with the description of the shooter. Why would they do that?
Often comments to articles are from people affiliated with gangs, and they always say to take a look at all the tweekers and junkies in town, not just them. That is what is happening now and it's not pleasant to have the shoe on the other foot.
Sad but true.
|IT IS WHAT IT IS|
Comment #123 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:00 am
I PRAY FOR THE VICTIMS FAMILIES FOR NO MATTER THE VICTIMS,OR IN ANY CASE... ANY VICTIMS, RACE, AFFILIATION, ETC... A LIFE IS A LIFE & AS HARD AS WE TRY TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM...
IT (BEING CRIME,GANGS,DRUGS..) IS A CANCER THAT NO AMOUNT OF POLICE OR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCHES WILL REPAIR AN ALREADY BROKEN SOCIETY. THIS GENERATION ESPECIALLY. I LIVE MY LIFE, HELP & WATCH OVER MY FRIENDS & NEIGHBORS AS I CAN. I'M PRETTY SURE IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A TOWN LIKE "MAYBERRY",IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR A FREEWAY. TRY GOING WHERE ITS COLD ...HISPANICS CANT STAND THE COLD
Comment #124 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:49 pm
first of all there was no hispanics, second of all dont get anything fronted,last but not least always have a gun my rwspects to brandon
|I want to know|
Comment #125 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:43 pm
What is going on with Brandon? And as soon as Thomas Hall (tearz) is sentenced, I want to know exactly how much time he gets. Tearz girlfriend needs to forget about that peice of crud and move on with her life. It is her fault that Thomas even knew Brandon. I mean he's 19 and tearz is 27. And i know for a fact tearz girlfriend knows Brandon Siewert.
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Comment #126 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Booking Nbr: 12512045 Last Name: HALL First Name: THOMAS
Middle Name: MARK Sex: M Race/Ethnicity: W
Date of Birth: 1/17/1985 Age: 27 Hair: BLN
Eyes: BLU Height: 5' 11" Weight: 130
Facility: Vista Detention Facility Area/Housing Unit: NM/2
Address: 325 South Melrose Drive City: Vista
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Arrest Agency: San Diego Sheriff Office Date Booked: 02/16/2012 Time Booked: 17:39:16
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Not Eligible For Release, No Bail
Sentenced?: No Projected Release Date:
CASE / CHARGE INFORMATION
Case # Arr Chg Code Section Code Description CL* Court Court Date Time ROC* Bail Amount
2 1 187(A) PC ATMP - MURDER:FIRST DEGREE F NCV 02/21/2012 13:30 Arraign 0
2 2 211 PC ROBBERY F NCV 02/21/2012 13:30 Arraign 0
2 3 29800(A)(1) PC FELON POSS FIREARM F NCV 02/21/2012 13:30 Arraign 0
2 4 667(B)(1) PC PRIOR FELONY CONVICTION F NCV 02/21/2012 13:30 Arraign 0
2 5 667(B)(1) PC PRIOR FELONY CONVICTION F NCV 02/21/2012 13:30 Arraign 0
F22465 1 1 3056 PC VIOLATION OF PAROLE:FEL F
Comment #127 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:35 pm
throw away the key
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Comment #128 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:46 pm
Date of Birth:1/17/1985
Facility:Vista Detention Facility
Address:325 South Melrose Drive
Arrest Agency:San Diego Sheriff Office
Not Eligible For Release, Bailable Cases, But No Release;
Projected Release Date:
ATMP - MURDER:FIRST DEGREE
FORCE/ADW NOT FIREARM:GBI
VIOLATION OF PAROLE:FEL
HE GOT BAIL ON THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF 2 MILLION BUT NO BAIL ON THE ROBBERY CHARGE OR THE VIOLATION OF PAROLE. SO HE IS STUCK IN JAIL UNTIL HIS PLEMINARY HEARING ON MARCH 1ST. HE'S GOING TO BE IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE REGARDLESS. HE COULD GET LIFE ON THE OTHER CHARGES BESIDES THE ATTEMPTED MURDER. THATS JUST ICING ON THE CAKE. BRANDON SIEWERT IS ALIVE, HE WOKE UP FROM HIS COME, AND HE'S AT THE HOSPITAL WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND RECOVERING. BE HAPPY FOR HIM&HIS FAMILY. I AM SO HAPPY FOR HIM AND THAT NO ONE HAD TO LOSE HIM. AS FAR AS THOMAS HALL GOES, HE RUINED HIS LIFE. HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS A PART OF WHAT HAPPENED AND SHE KNEW HE WENT THERE WITH A GUN AND INTENDED TO SHOOT BRANDON. SHE KNEW EVERYTHING AND SHE WILL BE CHARGED JUST WATCH! JUSTICE FOR BRANDON SIEWERT!
Comment #129 | Tuesday, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Brandon is awake and he is doing good. He's hugging his girlfriend and going to be able to watch tearz get justice for what he did to him. On tearz girlfriends facebook there is previous status updates of her talking about someone calling the cops on tearz and reporting him on facebook for making threats over facebook and his facebook was shut down for a while for him doing that. She posted a status saying that the person who called the cops on him was lame for calling them and only did it because he lives in a different area/state. And another person wrote her saying that he needed to speak to tearz and to have him message him on facebook and she said that he could talk to him face to face. and he said that he didn't want to because he didn't want to get "his butt kicked". Seriously, everyone can see how dangerous he is, so she obviously knows he is dangerous and to know that he has possession of TWO firearms and he took one to Brandon's house and shot him in his face. He is a person who deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison. And she deserves to go down with him. She posted previous statues on facebook stating she was waiting for brandon siewert and his girlfriend to wake up just 20 days before brandon was shot. She knew Brandon before that from school and his ex-girlfriend. And she introduced tearz and Brandon and let her stupid boyfriend take a gun and shoot him. She is at fault also. They should both spend the rest of their lives in prison. I hope the police charge anyone else involved with accessory. I really hope Brandon gets better quick and gets to go home soon! (: Im so happy for him and his family and so happy that he is alive to see justice for himself.
Comment #130 | Wednesday, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:27 am
Thats what happens when youu owe someone dope money,
Comment #131 | Wednesday, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:43 am
I wonder what brandon really did???then again I shouldn't be nosy....god bless to both young men
Comment #132 | Wednesday, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm
So is this due to drama or drugs????!!!
|Jeremy - Tom's real cousin|
Comment #133 | Wednesday, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:19 pm
Ok I have been digging deep because this is my family. And this is sad to hear and deal with because I also use to go to school with Brandon and when I heard I was upset. But everyone needs to not talk junk unless u actually know what happened. I was at Thomas's arraignment and I have heard some stories that it was a dope deal. Or Brandon owed Thomas money. But at court the DA actually said there were 2 victims in which I do feel horrible for my cousins actions but the D.A stated that victim 2 stated something to the fact that it was over a gold coin. Now I don't know what is really happening because everyone lies but I do know what the courts and judge said. And honestly Thomas messed up and he has to pay. Yes. But at the same time from what the news said is they both were felons in which everybody knows. And supposidly Brandon had a warrant. But that is none of my business. The fact is I hear from my cousin that it was an accident and now I have seen way different from these comments and I personally have told Thomas. U have to have intent to even have a gun, let alone two! And u have to have intent and pressure on the trigger to fire the bullet. I don't see an accident in that but who am I to say that? I'm not taking any sides on this but whoever commented with the name of "cousin" you are not Thomas's cousin if u are talking bout him. And yes he is not a bad person he just totally lost his way and he's in deep trouble. His actions are the reflect of his future. But your not real family so don't try to be and be upset with me putting u on blast but I only speak the truth especially when it comes to a horrible situation like this. But as for Brandon and his girlfriend. I hope u make it out ok buddy and for u both I'm sorry for my cousins complete stupid action.
Comment #134 | Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:37 pm
"His actions are the reflect of his future".
What in the heck does that even mean?
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|The victim is a criminal too|
Comment #135 | Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:33 pm
Apparently Brandon is no angle either. There are two sides of the story and Im waiting to hear the other side. Why didnt anyone post the personal information of Brandons? Im sick of people posting comments when they do not know all the facts.
|No One Knows the Trurth about Thom|
Comment #136 | Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Thomas isnt a monster. He and Brandon are young men who are lost and need to accept Jesus Christ into Their hearts.Thomas made a huge mistake that could have cost Brandon his life. No one knows the life Thomas grew up in. Instead of condemning Thomas we should be praying for him along with Brandon. We should be praying for their salvation. Let those without sin cast the first stone. Thomas and Brandon you are in my prayers.
|All you confused people|
Comment #137 | Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Can you all stop beating around the bush and think they are such good boys....HELLO people! They are both adults and they knew what they were doing.
Cousin or not...wake up and if you were all true friends and cousins, why didn't you all help them? To the two girlfriends if that's what you call yourselves....wake up ladies and smell the roses. Is this what you want in your life? I hope and pray that you both wake up soon. Where do you all want to be ten years from now? Answer that question! I sure hope not with the two losers! I feel bad for the owners of the house. Brandon and his girlfriend were not suppose to be in the house. They went in and brought all this problem with them. His family moved out, house was empty!
Comment #138 | Thursday, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:53 pm
This is just a bad judgment call on Thomas's part. The kid in the
hospital doesn't belong where he is at. All of what has happened
in Fall Brooks is a complete tragedy regarding this shooting.This should serve as
a wake up call to the younger generation that guns never resolve conflict with
Comment #139 | Saturday, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:20 am
Too bad this was moved into the archives. Unlike many articles I think this one was heading in the right direction: as to an amicable debate with possible semi-civil dialogue. Oh well...
|This Bothers Me|
Comment #140 | Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:51 am
I don't know why this case bothers me so much. I guess I just can't reconcile in my mind how someone can get so far gone to drugs that murder/attempted murder becomes the outcome. I guess maybe what bothers me is I have two young children and it scares me to no end to think they could get wrapped up in drugs like this despite the best parenting I can give.
Someone said that they are both criminals. So does that make it okay to attempt to kill the victim?? NO. I think the same person asked why no one posted the victims personal info. Criminal information happens to be public record. At this time the victim hasn't been charged in this crime. Although if the rumor someone posted above about a them finding a "pocket full of meth" on the victim is true, I wonder if he will be charged.
I will agree BOTH need to be prayed for. I pray they can both overcome their addictions and be productive citizens.
I also pray every time I am driving around Fallbrook that I don't get killed by some drug addict driving around town hopped up on some thing.
Comment #141 | Monday, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:17 am
You guys have everything soooooooo twisted its not even funny. Theres maybe 5 or 6 comments on here that come from people who know somewhat know what there talking about, Brandon will get his justice, its not up to you people how long Thomas should get. I love Brandon and Thomas both, and i also know that they were both in really bad place in their lives and they both let there addiction get the best of them one more than the other, but they are both such good people. Say what u want. Maybe, hopefully this saved both of them from a even worse road somewhere along the lines. Instead of being angry about what happened, lets open our eyes and see whats really going on in the world, sorry your village isnt as friendly as u may have thought. Get well Brandon. Stay Strong.
Comment #142 | Thursday, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
Wow... so deep this whole situation is. Personally, I know Tom (he is such a great guy); but when I found out about this horrible situation, I wept. Not sure what happened; how it happened; why it happened and so forth, I just know that my heart goes out to ALL of those affected by this situation. I pray for you Tom. I'm sorry that you were a day too late towards your goal:(
Comment #143 | Friday, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Any updates on this?
Comment #144 | Wednesday, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:23 pm
84592: yes, Brandon will get his justice, since he is doing well, and was less seriously injured than everyone apparently believes. the findings of the sheriff's include methamphetamine, packaged for sale, in Brandon's shirt pocket. For this he should certainly receive justice. And Thomas will receive his. Bottom line is that these were two whacked out meth addicts haggling over a coin stolen from someones mother...probably a burglary one of them committed. Hopefully they both get sober in prison and find their peace (and continued sobriety) in a higher power...other than DRUGS. So, yes Brandon, and Thomas, STAY STRONG! You will need all the strength you can muster, for what justice is ahead for both of you. Oh, sheriff's...what about Brandon's girlfriend impeding your investigation with erroneous information...regarding the suspects? What about her being charged with the drugs as well?
Comment #145 | Thursday, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:53 am
To those of you that want to blame Fallbrook or anything other than "We the People" for this kind of rampant repetitive crime, wake up. Apathy has resulted in the mess we are in and the only fix is to demand the Judicial system get tough on crime and put an end to revolving door justice. We will have to pay the price, but if we don't it will only get worse.
|its Art not vandalism|
Comment #146 | Thursday, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:06 am
dont say this is graffiti artitist. these are tweekers fighting over a gold coin u stupid people. Graffiti is Art not something to shoot about so before u blame people before u got ur story strait
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Comment #148 | Saturday, Mar 9, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Just because a person (previously used/under the influence of drugs), does not mean they deserve to die. I am sure most of the folks posting nasty comments, have a druggie or two in their family. If you think you don't, think again.
Just curious, how many of you have never, ever done any drugs??? How many of your family members, have never, ever done drugs??? Just curious.
Anyone posting comments such as: druggies deserve to die. Better not be a hypocrite- with a dope smoking, drug sniffing, needle slamming history whatsoever. Or have any family members with a drug history either. Otherwise, you are a complete fraud, acting like you're pure as the driven snow.
And it's really doubtful that anyone on here is the angel they claim to be, and never tried anything. And yes, pot is a drug too-sorry. Hope nothing like this ever happens to anyone, or their families for that matter. Child molesters and rapists deserve to die.
But if we wished everyone (who's ever tried a drug even once, or had a drug history) dead, there hardly be anyone left alive in Fallbrook would there??