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Translate this page 13-year-old Fallbrook boy shot in Vista gang incident dies; case goes to HomicideTuesday, May 11th, 2010 Issue 19, Volume 14.
Lieutenant Dennis Brugos of the San Diego County Sheriff’s Department Homicide Division confirmed his agency is now involved. "We have now teamed up with the North County Gang Task Force in this investigation," said Brugos. "That will allow for continuity in the case." Brugos said no arrests have been made in the case yet, but investigators are being diligent. "They are putting forth a lot of effort in this case," he said. It is believed by detectives that the 13-year-old went to Vista with a brother and a cousin to conduct an act of aggression and/or retaliation following recent assaults made on Fallbrook gang members by some from Vista. "It’s my understanding that [the Fallbrook gang members went to Vista] looking for trouble," said Lt. Phil Brust, commander of the Fallbrook Sheriff’s substation. "There were words exchanged and then shots were fired that ended up hitting the 13-year-old." The incident took place in the north central portion of Vista referred to as the "Townside" area, which is known for its gang infestation. Detectives at the Vista Sheriff’s Station define the Townside area as follows: southern boundary Vista Village Drive/Vista Way and Olive; northern boundary Bobier Drive; with the area running east and west of North Santa Fe. Brugos said no major changes will be made in the way the investigation is being handled, as he feels the efforts underway are on track. "We won’t make a lot of changes at this point, because it’s been actively worked," he said.
(Previous story - April 2, 2010 - Debbie Ramsey)
The 13-year-old Fallbrook boy who was shot in a gang-related altercation March 31 in Vista, remains in critical but stable condition in an area hospital, said Vista detective Joe Ellis said on Wednesday. Local law enforcement officials say gang tension has been evident recently between Vista and Fallbrook, but say these incidents appear to be deliberate acts of targeted aggression. Lt. Pete Callewaert of the Vista Sheriff’s station says that’s what happened on March 31 to the 13-year old who was accompanied by his older brother and cousin. "These kids went into [this] neighborhood looking for a dispute," says Callewaert. "If [suspected gang members] want to drive into the geographical area where numerous rival gang members live, they’re looking for trouble." "This 13-year-old came with his friends and family looking for trouble," says Callewaert. "I’m not condoning it; that’s just what happened." The area the incident happened is known as the Townside area of Vista, which is near but not on the property where the large Krikorian movie complex and a host of restaurants and shops are located. As a result, many Village News readers have enquired as to how safe that particular complex is. "It’s considered a safe environment for youth and young adults, but, just like any other place, parents should take some responsibility for their child’s behavior, that is not just drop them off and drive away; they need guidelines," says Callewaert. "My own kids go there a lot. It’s a great place for a movie, meal, coffee, or ice cream." But Callewaert admits at times there are a lot of youth on the property. "As is typical, certain nights of the week there is an overabundance of young people and that’s why we have officers nearby," he says. The Townside area, Callewaert says is best described by the following boundaries: the southern boundary is Vista Village Dirve/Vista Way and Olive; the northern boundary is Bobier Drive; and the area runs east and west of North Santa Fe. "It is the north central portion of Vista," Callewaert says. "The Krikorian complex is not in the Townside area; it is south of it, but only by a few blocks." 153 comments
When is it going to end ? To even think we don't have a gang problem is absurd. The Friendly Village isn't what it used to be. Granted, this tragedy happened in Vista but next time it happens in Fallbrook. We need to take the gang problem seriously. There is plenty of white trash (not just the Hispanics) that contribute to the problem.
i cant believe he died he was a good friend of mine
It's pathetic how this on and off gang @#$% has been going on for years. Every time we hear a new story, a new stabbing or shooting we become "aware" of the problem that we have had for the longest time. Some of our Deputies, Sheriffs and Law Enforcers act neutral to each individual situation, unlike others that assume and abuse their public title, a title that us tax payers are paying for, to act according to the law, not according to whom they do or not like. This particular case makes me wonder, what kind of brother and cousin this kid had, 13 years old, shouldn't he had been in bed by 9 pm? I'll bet they are proud of their decision to take this kid down ther, the purpose of that? One less citizen in town, good job. Stop the non-sense now. Let's make one thing clear, he did pass away on Mother's Day, what this article dosen't state is the fact that he had been released from the hospital and had to return back due to complications. Here we are judging left and right because of the way our teenagers act, dress or portray themselves, just by their looks. If I had a penny for every time I saw one of these kids down Main or Mission, trying to "fit in", into the gang, parents wake up and smell your kids, yes, smell your kids, do they smell like smoke? Marihuana? Drugs? Alcohol? Hint, hint!!! As a society it is our obligation to guide them, to have after school activities they could be doing and affording, let the city provide some free lessons of whatever they would care to teach, to keep them from hanging around doing what they shouldn't be doing only because there's nothing else to do. How about a boxing ring, how about a big brother program, how about Fallbrook invests into their youth, future of this town. If we keep ignoring the rival situation within the two cities, (up to now I have no idea what they're fighting for, the boardwalks? Isn't it public property?), then yes, we will be a crime infested neighborhood. Our town will be no longer be known as "the avocado capital of the world", but as "the most careless parents of the world". I don't want to be a part of the title, do you? Parents, guide your child, teach them right from wrong, keep them active in a positive way. Kids, enjoy your childhood, you will never be given a chance to do it all over again. Stop those mother's from crying into their kids caskets. Stop, enough is enough, but only if we care. God Bless all of You.
Does anyone know if this boy lived in the Old Stage/South Vine neighborhood? ![]()
This is heart-breaking news.
FBVN: The minor child is deceased, the protection no longer applies, Next of kin knows already. Who "was" this gang banger? Amber and Chelsea should have had such privacy. ![]()
The lead will be flying in Fallbrook and Vista this summer, duck folks. Colors... colors... colors... colors.
RIP... We as Fallbrook should demonstrate our support to a family and a mother who experienced the worst mother's day, a mother can experience. FBVN please report any updates of what we can do to support this family. With deepest sympathy, McCoy
Very very sad. Prayers for the family...
McCoy - There is going to be a car wash at the Happy Jug tomorrow to help get donations for the family of the 13 yr old boy that passed away on Sunday. Let your friends and family know so that we as a community can help them out.
Franky, I'm sorry your brother's involvement in VFL got you killed. RIP. You were a bright funny guy.
To the family of this young man, I am so terribly sorry for your loss. All in the name of stupid gangs. Was that worth it? What was the matter with his brother and cousin? Why did they take him there? I just don't get it. This is so not worth it.
R.I.P ........ ! you are always gonna be in our hearts and i know that your in a better place now. But we have to give support to his family yeah i know his mom received the worst mothers day ever. ![]()
D.... i can't believe he's gone now i ..... loved that boy soo much .... vista!
i meant Happy Jugs ![]()
there is going to be a car wash at ahppy jugs on may 12 to support the family
...and my heart goes out to this little boy (just a baby...) whose life was sacrificed in the name of retaliation.
Rest in Peace little one. My heart goes out to the family. This didn't need to happen.
This senseless violence is built on generations of neglect, poverty, lack of education, lack of parenting, etc. The Boys and Girls Club does a great job providing daycare to kids after school hours...parents, however, balk at the fact that they have to pick their under 13 children up instead of having them released on their own. This is very sad, indeed. What is a 13 yr old doing cruising with gang members? This is a result of the breakdown of the family. Women's lib started it with moms going into the workforce to satisfy their egos instead of doing their job, which is motherhood - the most important job. Men became disillusioned with their role as the breadwinner and before you know it, we have two income households with no supervision for children, which leads to neglect, gang involvement, drugs, etc. Sorry for the rant, but I truly believe this is a result of family values going down the toilet.
Mike:I've been saying this for years, Fallbrook "has" a bad gang problem and far more than the "one" socalled experts say. I tried to tell people nicely, than to shock them into seeing the problem, but as usual, people just bury their heads ignoring the problem. Now you have a child dead because nobody saw the problem, friends, family, church, or nobody wanted to see it. Now you will have retaliation after retaliation between rival gangs this summer, is this the community you want to live in? Yes Fallbrook used to be "the friendly village" I can remember horses walking down West Mission to Main Avenue, that soon ended, now it's shopping carts, graffiti and filth, Is this the Fallbrook you want to promote? nobody wants to visit Fallbrook anymore and why? the gangs, the ranshackled homes and businesses and frankly, the illegal aliens, all this adds up to what I have been saying for years, Fallbrook is lost. You need to get rid of the gangs, that means changing certain folks way of thinking, good luck. These "hug a thug" programs just don't work, what's left? "scorched earth tactics" by law enforcement, take no prisioners approach before the problems get worse. What will it take for the people of Fallbrook to finally wake up? a "hillie child" killed by a gang member?
One less gang member in the world! One less person to grow up and victimize the good people. Lets not get too sappy here over "mother's day". The dynamics of that family obviously broke down way before Sunday, and I don't see anything about how the "mom" was keeping that kid under wraps. As IBAM says, what the heck was a 13yr old doing out. When the parents don't care, the kids don't care. There are thousands of parents raising kids in the "barrios" and the kids aren't turning out to be bangers, so don't cry foul of where their house was either. It ALWAYS comes back to the family unit.
Fallbrook Mama you're dumb... bonifide dumb. Really, you want to blame mothers that work for things that happen in the world like gang violence and drugs and neglect? You're a joke. I know plenty of very rich business people in FALLBROOK who have big mansions that have all the money in the world and their kids are hooked on drugs and commit acts of violence and guess what their mothers are home with them so you are a joke about mothers having to work being the problem.
Who is the child? No name or last name on the story. . . . .Very sorry for the family on the loss of this child. AUTHORITIES WILL NOT RELEASE NAMES OF MINORS - VILLAGE NEWS
saw some signs in town today said help the lopez family pretty sure thats his last name
nacho55: Now that's good old fashioned "common sense" Refreshing to hear it today but be careful, I've said it for years now and I'm called everything in the book. One thing I learned, never talk bad about their "little angels". ![]()
That right only applies to the living, the child is now deceased.
pay back is a bxxch
It's sad that he has passed on. This is what happens when you are involved with gangs!!!!! His older brother who brought him to the movies should have know better.
It is the 13-year-old WHO went to Vista with a brother and a cousin to conduct an act of aggression and/or retaliation following recent assaults made on Fallbrook gang members by some from Vista. Your ACTIONS can couse your death or someone elses plus the greif you give to the family members!! GangSweeps = PEACE
frank: The child's name was Frankie Lopez, R.I.P., Potter Jr. High student. Ray (the real one): I do agree with you on your comment on line #7, with the exception of colors...it's the same color fighting each other. We don't have to wait until this summer, it has already started. Fallbrook Mama: Line #19, they sure do a great job, but it's hard to get kids involved, some people are making ends meet, not every body can afford it. Friend: Line #11, isn't that the never ending story? Innocents paying the price for one f%^&*d family member trying to be hard? You can see what kind of "man" Frankie's brother is, the one that throws the rock and goes on an hides behind his mama's skirt while the other ones are getting shot. Tell his brother I said "congrats", let's see if he can live with that. Hopefully there's no more younger brothers he can take cruising around with him. R.I.P. Frankie !!!!
San Diego County Sheriff’s Department Homicide Division agency is now involved. Start with brother and a cousin be charged by the DA, for being complicit in the death of the boy. Complicit = involvement as an accomplice in a crime or wrongdoing.
IBAM: Do you know if Frankie (RIP) and his family lived in the Old Stage/South Vine neighborhood area?
Don't feel a bit sorry for the brother or cousin. Hope they are convicted of the crime commited, even tho they won't see it as that.
wildheart: he doesnt live on old stage or south vine? why does it matter where they live? If any one would like to help his family out please donate whatever u can to help his family out by stopping by the car wash or by giving his mother a hug during this difficult time for her.. NO parent should have to bury their children. I understand that gangs lead you no where but this isnt the time to point the fingers at someone..His mother lost a child can anyone just help out in this difficult time... I know this family and she is the best mother she always tried her best to have her child do their best in life and unfortunately he made a wrong dicision that cost him his life... For those who know him its not a time to morn but a time to celebrate his life and time we shared w/him May you rest in peace Frankie.
wildheart: yes, they do.
ibam: they dont live on either street..sorry to inform you
Bet the Sheriffs dept can do a gang sweep at the car wash tomorrow! And by the way, if you go there to support, bring your kevlar helmets cause i'm sure Vista Gangsters want revenge for what little "frankie" was over there trying to do and they will strike when the opportunity is golden. And vice a versa for our own wonderful fallbrook gangsters. In fact, they'll probably be rolling tonight, tomorrow, sometime soon to avenge the death. This is how varments live. EVERYONE should hate gangs and stand up for what is right and good and not tolerate these antics. Saying what "boyscouts" these guys are, isn't solving the problem.
IBAM: they dont even live in those streets
Don't worry, anyone. The Sheriff's office in Fallbrook has stated that there is no gang problem in Fallbrook. Everything is under control. Right?
IM FRANKIES COUSIN (I WASNT WITH HIM AND THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT) AND IT HURTS ME TO SEE HIS MOTHER CRYING. MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE. IF YOU CAN COME SUPPORT HIM. IT WILL MEAN A LOT TO ME AND OUR FAMILY
resdentoffallbrook: Your right, my mistake. pde: I apologize for the error.
i feel so sorry about this loss especially for the mom for a son to die on mothers day must be hard and then her daughter died of a brain tumor in august or September somewhere around here My best wishes go to the family
i will miss you so much but now we konw you are in a better place to rest rip faranciso lopez 5-9-10 @ 8:00
frankie, R.I.P. you will always be loved and will be missed so dearly..your in a better place now...please come support this family during this difficult time whether it was his fault or not... love, potter student
Rest In Peace Franky Lopez You Will Always Be In Our Hearts & Prayers To His Family . I LOVE YOU FRANKY
Dear child don't cry - why would I care if it means a lot to you? I hope you are not expecting a huge turnout to support the actions that got this boy killed - but that is how your message reads, at least to me. How about a rally to stop the gangs in this boy’s name? Or a fund/program named after him to intercede in "at risk youth"; something positive in his memory. Now, that I would take as meaningful.
@ post.42 sally---- it was not her daughter it was her neice
It feels just yesterday we were play fighting and calling each other dirty girl for the fun of it. R.I.P Frankie
Hopefully from the proceeds of the car wash fundraiser this poor grieving so called mother and the equally pitiful excuse of a father might consider sterilization before subjecting the community to further examples of their parenting skills.
Wildheart: Why Does It Matter Were He Lives ?
FALLBROOK: Yes Frankie is in a better place where he can form a VFL branch in heaven. ![]()
Guess Saint Peters is going to have a gang funeral. Those gothic tee shirts, Boyz 2 Men playing on the organ and a 7.62 round placed inside the casket. All the hand flashing as a tribute.
It is sad that this childs llife was cut so short but I hope his pain and his families pain is a lesson to all these kids who think being in a gang is cool cuz its not....these kids think the gang is there new family ok fine how about the gang this kid and brother were in how bout they pay his medical bills! You kids from potter and th high school wake up!
Awww Frankiee! Yew Will Be Reallllyy Missedd!! Yew Will Always Be In Our Heartss(: We Will Never Forget Yeww.. But I Even Though Yur Not With Us Yur In A Safe Place Nd I Know That Yew Will Alwayss be Lookinq Down On Us! R.I.P. My Dear Lil Frankie): I Just Wish Yew Didnt Have To Leave So Soon!! Love,Yur Friendd Aka Potter Student!
dear franky; it hurted me wen i got the bad new i felt like crying and being with u at the same time. i blame myself this hole thing on me i remember all the good times we had together at the district.i kinda feel like crying rite now writing this sad storry about u i always liked u as a brother. u dont diserve to go away. i always put my head down i wish u were rite here with me so u could see the things im writing to u. Dont worrie im going to ur funiral have a great deep sleep ![]()
Franky lopez Rest in peace Amazing friend Never forgotten Kind and friendly to his friends It hurts me you being gone Every time i think about you i put my head down Lost loves one Oh no you dont diserve to go away forever Please come back Everybody misses you Zip it and let him have his rest "you will always be REMEMBERED but never FORGOTTEN"
i will miss you Franky...... i'm sorry i never gave a dollar when you asked for it! we will miss you buddy... i used to be in your class last year
rip you were a good friend
R.I.P I Will Miss You Soo Much, i Love yu Lil Baby Boyy. Rest In Paradise . -potter student
Im BAck .... usmcret :thats messed up it hurts to see all of our friends & his family in pain . you probly dont understand how this feels & its NOT that easy to just say lets do a fund/program or whatever you say we should do UHHHH ! no i dont think so . ![]()
we thouhgt of you with love today, its nothing new, we thought about you yesterday and days before that too, we think of you in silence, we often speak your name, now all we have is memories, and your picture in a frame, your memoriy is our keepsake, with which will never part, god has you in his keepings, we have you in our hearts.
.:R.I.P FRANKIE U WERE LIKE A BROTHER TO ME:(( I HOPE U REST IN PIECE BUT IN PARADISE TO U WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN I ONLY HAD 3 SHORT YEARS WITH U U KNO BUT U WERE A BROTHER MAN.... R.I.P FRANKE LOPEZ AKA DANGER:.
Ray: &^*@ off
frankie rest in peace i now i didnt now u that much but i now alot of ppl that did know u n loved u... will be missed n loved forever rest in peace..... ppl plz have respect for the lopez family
What a shame! His brother and cousin will have to live with this guilt for the rest of their lives. I hope it changes their minds, and turns their lives around. We need to educate these people. It is the ONLY way.
rip frank
residentoffbk: The reason I'm inquiring is because I know and have known many children and families from the area, as a neighbor for 10 years, and have been involved as a mentor and through other community volunteer energies--including at Potter Junior High. Among other things, I tried to get a neighborhood center created in the Old Stage/South Vine area a decade ago, with my and others seeing and hearing about problems even back then. I worked as a counselor in Long Beach at a community neighborhood center and other projects, including HeadStart, years ago, and I thought it would be helpful to have a neighborhood center on this end of town. Sadly, it did not get the necessary support to manifest. There are longtime challenges in our neighborhood with children going into the gang or being affiliates. This has continued to grow. I've talked with children and their parents who say the younger ones were coerced by their older brothers and their friends into becoming active. Simply in asking, I wanted to see where the boy who had been shot and killed lived in that he and his family might have been someone that I and my neighbors knew. We care.
to exeryone talking about whos fault it is u guys dont know anything about how exerything went on... All these people talking about bad parenting shut up his mom is the best mom there is she would do anything for her son even give her life for him... ANd i Hope no one else has to go through losing one of their kids because noone knows how this mom feels till this happens to them...
ill miss uu franky.lopez && in our hearts uu will stay forever..i love u&rest in peace..1996-2010
Kay, a.k.a. People, et al: Back at ya! This is what I mean about screen name abuses, multiple aliases.
REST IN PEACE FRANKY damn cant believe ur gone primito ull never be FORGOTTEN ull always LIvE in our HEARTS
Kay, a.k.a people, a.k.a. guesswhat. How many aliases do you have? You sound like an illegal alien trying to collect welfare using dozens of social security numbers, are you? FBVN: This can be annoying. This comment section actually generated "massive hits" which means more find out that Fallbrook actually has a paper but if people have twenty different "handles" it becomes worthless. Remember once you had to register, reconsider that policy. NO ONE EVER HAD TO 'REGISTER' TO BLOG ON THIS SITE... MUST BE REFERRING TO ANOTHER SITE...-VILLAGE NEWS
a good friend: Line #55 Why would you blame yourself for all this? Anything we should know about? wildheart: Line #67 It's nice to know people are still trying to do something for our youth in Fallbrook, sadly, nothing has been accomplished. A lot of our citizens do care, do want to make a difference, but there will always be negative people not supporting something that in the long run is only for the benefit of all the community. Thenk you. fallbrook: Line #53 I also agree with yor comment, "homies" step up to the plate and pay this youngster's medical and funeral bills. Aren't you all like family, right? What does family do? They stick with their loved ones thru thick and thin, show your true colors, step it up. Come up with the cash, make this family worry about one less thing. usmcret: Line #46 Good point, let's do a rally, I'm all up for it, a fund/program name after him, in his honor. kay: Line #60 Don't take offense on usmcret's comment and suggestion, it's the best honor you could give "Frankie", installing a fund or program on behalf of his name. A rally to bring conscious to our residents that we want the violence to stop now. No more innocent lives lost at the mercy of senseless people. Don't you want a better tomorrow than what you have today? Don't you wish somebody had done something similar a long time ago and maybe, just maybe "Frankie" would be with us riht now?
Do they have the suspect in custody?
#46 usmcret: that is a great idea. What a wonderful tribute that would be for this boy and a way to have his death have some meaning. #55/#56 Why did you go from writing like an illiterate idiot, to writing with perfect grammar/spelling? What was the point in sounding like a vato? That takes away from the dignity of the discussion here. $60/#61 Kay/people why would you find fault in usmcret wanting to make Frankie's death mean something by starting a fund in his name to prevent gang violence? That is what should be done to prevent another family going through this senseless nonsense. Additionally, I think it is selfish and self-serving for you to insinuate that a retired marine has never experienced death before......HELLO? What planet did you step off of. #55/#56/#60/#61, good friend/homies/kay/people,.......really? Just pick one name and stick with it. Four different names for the same poster is a little much. Having said all that, Lord I ask you to raise this boy's family up in your arms and hold them during this difficult journey they are taking. Help them to find a loving, hopeful, non-violent, non-revengeful release from this horrible pain. I am sorry for your tragedy. Sadly to say, this boy made a horrible decision based on his brother and cousin's behavior. Shame on them for not being better examples. I pray for them as well. I hope they turn their lives around and devote their time to anti-gang activities in Frankie's name. That is what he deserves. He deserves to have positive lessons learned because of his death. To all his friends and family, give Frankie that gift. Do whatever you have to do to stay away from the nonsense that killed your son/brother/cousin/friend.
Nothing like a GOOD GangSWEEP to clean the place up, and bring some PEACE. GangSWEEP = Peace Maker
lil homie u domt diserve 2 go away ill always think of u have a good rest
RIP FRANKY F DA HATERZ
R.I.P Frankie. i'm sorry ur brother's involvement in the VFL got you killed. u were a good person not to mention a good friend
R.I.P Frankie, You will be missed by many!
i hope the poor little angel's mom might consider a tubal ligation.
why why why..??why you have to leave uss.!!!! franky imma miss uu..uu dont know how much l love uu..why??? franky imma miss u alot little homie rest in peace... have a g00d deap sleep.. ray:you know what ray stop talkin smack.. urr the one whose gettin in everyones buissnes..&& why did uu have to come on thiss page && talk ****..ray everyones tiredd off uu talking bout hispanics..& the lost of our freind is sad.thiers nothing to be happy about.i bet you if you lost someone in ur family or friends you would feel the same. & even though if it was hes fault or not he still was a cool.nice.& awsome freind im never going to forget.onlyy iff u knew how we felt.but no urr just one white dude that doesnt understand.
hey nacho u dont know anything about his mom.. his mom is a good mom like anyother mom she would only gixe him permission to go outside for two hours thats it and he would always come home But if u know things can happen in a second u nexer know so stop talking sxxt cause u dont know sxxt
I'm so sorry about what happened to Frankie lopez he was in my pe period I think and I saw him at school from time to time but whatts the worst about this is that he is 13 and all you guys are doing is arguing about politics when at the end of the day this is not about personal opinions but about this poor young man and his family God bless the lopez family and I promise God has a plan for all if this
Frankie was one of my good friends and i will miss him...R.I.P Frankie lopez
Frankie lopez u always made me laugh and the teacher would get mad I would do anything for that to happen again but it can't so it makes me very sad u were the class clown and now u r gone when I heard u past away I stayed frozen....... And let a couple of tears out franky R.I.P R.I.P R.I.P R.I.P R.I.P R.I.P gods child
To:(ray the real one) it gets me so mad how you are saying all these bad things about Frankie when you dont even know him.Why would you put a comment like the one you put in #51 and #52 it just gets me really mad when i read those comments...you also said that his funeral will be taking place in saint peters when its not...you just like to talk and talk but u dont know sh**...and why do you have to be disrespecting frankie by saying that he will form a vfl gang in heaven...dude that just shows how much you hate hispanics
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Franky i member gettin the news, it was a trip n noo i still dont belive it!! At such a young age ur gone!! But y ? y u ? U were a really awsome kid!! I will never forget u, u will alwayz be in mah heart as a bomb friend n a hyper boy!!! Serio ur gone? well all i gottah say iis Rest in paradise dirty n member that u will alwayz have a place in mah heart!! R.I.P!!
frankie, R.I.P. lil homie, u were loved so much and will always be i miss u sooo much u will always be remembered but never ever forgotten im so glad the car wash went well and tht we raised so much money u didnt deserve this homie, vista hope the get what they deserve for killing one of my friends *10-6-96 to 5-9-10*
pissed off fallbrook resident: Line #90 Why continue the violence? For more families to be sufferig like Frankie's is? That's really what you want? Don't put it on vhb, if it hadn't been for his brother and cousin going down and trying to be hard Frankie would be alive. It's only reality, think about it. Why would they take this 13 year old kid? For what? Just to face death? Make some sense, and I'm not even trying to target at your comment, but if we are going to speak the truth then let's do that. At the end what's the fight about? How many innocent family members they can get? It's open season? VFL's it's time to turn things around, stop the violence, stop the crime, make a difference, there's more then enough of the homies buried in our local cemetary, more then enough doing time or life in prisons, more then enough broken families and what's even worst there's is too many mother's crying for their children, their kids that they will never have a chance to hug, kiss or say "i love you" again. Reality, not retaliation, grow up guys, this has been going on for ever, it's never ending, only 'cause some veterano comes out and calls the shots you see him as the almighty? You guys want respect, why not start by showing it to your own family, giving them less headaches and heartaches, prove yourself for yourself, not for someone that in reality dosen't give a s#$t about 'brook town'. Been there, done that, got out, living life the way it should be, own my home, own a my cars, have a career and great job to back me up, enough $$$ in the bank to go on vacations whenever I choose to, but not becasue of that I forget where I came from. I'm always giving back to the community. Leave your negative thoughts aside and your "so called friends", 'cause at the end, you know who will always stand by you no matter what? Your family, that's who. Once you're dead, they forget about you. Once you're locked up, the only one sending you money or packages is your family. Want to be something in the "barrio", then be a leader not a follower. You might be angry when you read this or God permit some sense will come into you. Like I said, not trying to target at your comment, you have yours, I have mine, freedom of speech.
Sweep for 87 88 89 90 what a wast of air. The moral Bar is low in these brains. Please; a gangsweep on the fools.
All the blame is not necessary, Franky was loved by his Mom and Dad and Brothers. This was tragic to say the least, the very worst part is that he must have suffered from the bullets. I am so sorry that he suffered, why oh why? May he rest now, that darling and dear boy who was just starting his life as a man. May his parents rest and heal with a new baby coming. I don't think this happened because of lack of parenting, wrong place, wrong time, bad choices....we could go on and on ...and get nowhere, Franky is gone from the life he had...he is eternal now and let's hope that everyone can stop with the revenge. ENOUGH!!!
Wouldn't it be great if these moms could have the gift and healing of the brother and cousin being brave, unselfish and courageous enough to leave the gang and lead a respectable life outside the gang?
ray : may god change the way you think about hispanics . wow for all you people saying **** about this situation please just STOP it hurts SO bad seeing his family & friends in so much pain . ive never been in so much pain in my life i understand hes in a better place now & hopefully hes looking down on us proudly . he was a GOOOD kid and did NOT desereve any of this . his mom was a great mom & would do anything for each & every one of her kids like anyother mom . i just ask for all you people saying mest up things if this ever happens to you hopefully it wont but if it does youll see how his family & friends feel . REST IN PEACE DiRTAAAY ps i LOVE you & you will be missed A LOT
Yeah I heard his mom my pregnant. That's sad one son still in a gang one son dead because he was trying to be in a gang and now bringing another kid in the world! And yes I said he was trying to be in the gang he was not an innocent by stander. Wake up people. And sorry to agree with ray but it would make me mad if this mother was on wel fare and wic. It wouldn't surprise me.
Look he might of had his mistakes in life yah maybe so but not jus cuz of that did he deserve to die n not jus cuz of that are all u people gunna be sayin this SH** !! Really hes gone let him rest in peace!! Hes never gunna be forgotten in mah heart he will alwayz have a big space!! All u people that have commented i bet that most of u are parents or have a lil kid that looks up to u that u love, wouldnt it hurt to see a loved one die no matter how he was how he behaved or for wat reason caused this incident ? He wasnt a bad kid he wasnt tryin to be a homie cuz he already was one!! If u have nutin nice to say than dont comment nutin at all!! When a lovede one dies wat would u like to get REspect and love or Hate ? Im pretty sure u would want to get respect in love!! Were ever he is he was wat he was but yet he was young n he didnt deserve to leave us like this!! N Maybe bein in a gang is not the best choice but now a dayz thatz all teenz think about no itz not juss hispanic anymore its anybody from any raise!! I have family in this gang to n all i gottah say is that wat goes around comes around!! But dont be sayin mest up thingz if u dont noe the true story cuz For real Village news doesnt noe the true story it noes some of it but not all of it!! And Franky were ever you are REst in Peace one day we will meet again and all these people that are posting cruel comments it jus proves that apperently they havent lost someone as amazing as you!!! Well dirtaayy i love you n i wil never forget you GONE BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN!! October 6,1996-May 9,2010!! N TO the family i love you guys sooo much!!
Close friend: Line # 98 Had more then my fair share of burying my love ones as well as my homies. It's a pain that can not be described. But for that reason alone, stop, stop, stop now, all this gang s^&t, it leads no were. It's sad, but true, now days, teens that's all they think of, trying to belong. The lucky ones that did get out, give back to the community, never forget were we came from, there's so many waiting to be helped, even tho they don't ask for it or show it. One step at a time, one by one, unchained them from this destructive pattern. God Bless all of You. My respects, Frankie, RIP.
will he was a good frend !!!!!!!
Now is the time to stop! ....and all of the talk that is not complementary to Franky needs to stop. What good will any of that do.We all need to change and look the other way when it comes to any gang behavior. Be Strong you friends of Franky get a good life now, LOVE TO YOU LITTLE FRANKY and your FAMILY TOO. You are an Angel now and you have wings XXXXX
really dude all you saying that it the older brothers, cousins, and parents fault you really need to shut your mouth cuz you guys dont really know what happened. Frankys family is amazing his mom and dad are the greatest there the nicest people you can ever meet the family isnt bad at all and all of you blaming it on his older brother "a" he's a real good guy he plays soccer with my cousin he went with frankie to vista to make sure he didnt to anything wrong and to make sure that he didnt get into trouble so dont blame it on any one if you blame it on someone blame it on the person who shot inicient frankie if it wasnt for them he still would have been alive i love the lopez family with all my heart so for you lopez's sorry for what happen to frankie RIP frankie lopez aka danger lots of love
awww my litttle homie. you will be gone but never forgotten i love you forever
If I put a "Z" after every word and speak in slang can I be a gang member? Frankie will only be a letter in the footnote of life, the way it should be. He rolled the dice and lost. Does anyone have the Microsoft Beanbonics translator for Windows? My computer is having trouble translating "mush mouth".
KNA "really dude all you saying that it the older brothers, cousins, and parents fault" Your so right KNA its the fault of all of them chumps.
ppl really need to get there facts straight and stop blaming it on the family they didnt shot him blame it on the person or ppl that did kill and shot inicient frankie lopez and whoever said that the older brother is a coward supposly hiding behind his moms skirt thats not true he stayed with frankie the whole time he's the one who took him to the hospital. Now think for just one second if frankie went with his friends on the bus or a friend who drives if they witnessed it they would've just left him laying there and they would have ran off. and poor little frankie would have been outside dying and his friends hiding back home. It was good that frankies brother was there cuz he's the one who took him to the hospital not caring if he got hurt while carrying frankie into the car to take him to the hospital right away. frankies brother is not a coward he should be called a hero i know frankies brother he's a really good person he's athletic and real nice. i don't think anyone should call frankies older brother or his family cowards cuz there not. get to know tnem first before you judge them. dont disrepect they're still going through a hard time. frankies parents are the best parents in the world you have no idea.Frankie i know your in a better place now we will all join you when the time comes. lots of love and respect for the lopez family. RIP Frankie Lopez 1996-2010
this is bull the sheriff department from fallbrook as well as vistas sheriffs dont know jack this article doesnt make any sence all its doing is making "gang members" look bad they were kids! remember detectives... assumptions are the mothers of all mess ups and you people dont know anything! rest in peace franky!
An unfortunate situation, but he made his choices and got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow!!
Hey My namE Is =BreanN And i DoNt KnoW FranKy LOpeZ BuT Its SaD I SenD My PraYerS To HiM anD thE FAmily R.I.P FraNky YoU DIdNt DeserVe WhaT haPpenD to You At A EarLy AgE YoU WerE onlY ThriTeeN YeaRs Old. R.I.P LittlE GuY.....
Franky we love u gone but never ever forgotten u would always make us laugh i love u!!! cant believe ur gona but u will always be in our hearts i love u Rest in paradise respeto to da familia LOpez
District Attorney arrest the parents for the inablility to care for his moral upbringing. They were unable to use sound mind in his care (otherwise he would have been HOME). Unable to stop this gang life style they seem to like so much. D.A. put them in jail! Put them in jail you stop the cycle.
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WTF? To comment #110 if i could say bad words on here i wouldahhh cussedd u outt big timee!!! its not even there fault its nobodyz fault n for ur info His parent are marvalouseee and they are good parents ok!! N i noe what ur gunna say if they are good parents than y waS he out at 9 ocklockk at night!!! WEll look us as teens we dont wanna be kept at home like lil babrbies in a dollhousee...we askk for libertyy n yes we doo get it! It wasnt his parents fault he died !!! If they new he was gunna get shot and months later die u think they woulda let him out??? rEally im sure theyy cant tell the future n noo disrespect but ur a lame!!! i love youu franky! RIP!! N to the Familyy.....you got plentt ppl talkinn shi* but manyy more helpin you n im one of them!!
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fallbrook res#110:wttf?? you know what you dont even know anything alright.i bet when you were a little 13 year old boy uyou were out there to..and dont lie becuz everybody goes put like that..uss frankys freinds dont like hearing stuff like that bout him..so stop this..stop acting like little kids talking smack to one another.if your mature then you should know better.instead of saying prayers to the family thats going through alot.but noo you go off and sayy yeah arrest them.it shouldent be like that.they gone throguh alot.and welll the onlly thing that i can say iss that .. stop TALKIN SMACK BOUT THE LIL HOMIE && HIS FAMILY!!! ND WELL PRAYERS TO HIS FAMILY AND FREINDS THAT HOPING NOTHING BADD HAPPENS TO NO BODY LIKE IT DID TO FRANKY CUZ IT DOES HURT LOSSING A REALLY CLOSE FREIND.I LOVE YOU FRANKY AND YU WELL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART.NOT ONLLY IN MINE BUT IN OTHERS THAT MISS YOU AND LOVE YOU LIKE I DO!!R.I.P 1996-2010
Proof the D.A. needs to do something about this type of thinking. D.A. start putting parents in jail for this ganglife style. This child is dead because of thinking you see in this list who do not blame themselves Stop the cycle put THEPARENTSIN JAIL.
Fallbrook Res Line #115 Parents in jail? For kids not listening? Imagine, parents in jail and definetely all the kids running around without any supervision at all, great idea, not. How many "orphans" will be left to roam the streets? But like I keep saying, install some free after school/weekend programs, supply them with something to do. How about who ever accumulates more community service hours, lets say in a 3 month period wins a bicycle,(example). Have them look forward to a positive outcome. Let me repeat it, todays youth are Fallbrook' s future. Don't be complaining in future years because nothing was done when needed.
Stop the gang lifestyle. Stop the cycle, put the Parents in JAIL also! As for the ophan issue they already are ophans the parents show proof of it.
let my brother rest in peacee... ray if you dont know how it went down dont get it twistedd an stop talkin about hispanics the way yu do that just makin yu look like a white piece of caca.. i love you hermanito y los momentos que tubimos fueron los mejores memorias que me an quedado > transalation the moments that we had together were are now the best memories we havee... i love you bro an may god have you in heavven F the haterz is ritee yu guys are just makin our pain bigger dont blame his brother for this god know why he did it an ray quit sayin that frankiee will make a VFL branch in heavenn... kuz you're just mad dat your ppl havent made the KKK gang in heaven kuz god dont let white trash enter hes heavenly gang member yu fools are the ppl that segregated blacks an put whites only.. well in heaven theres a sign that says white trash like ray are not allowed... how do i know well i dream wit my broo every nite n has told me what heaven looks like!!!!! R.I.P hermanito love... your PIC homieee / brotherr by the way i dedicate the song RIP carnalito to yu..
Post 118 If you call this communication; you belong in jail!
I didn't know this boy, and it pisses ME off to see these bullsh%$ comments so just imagine how his family feels. What's up with all the blame? A lot of teenagers are out at nine so let's stop pretending like your ....... kids are really in bed by nine. Who are you trying to fool? The point is this kid is gone, and the family is hurting like any of you would be if your kid was killed, especially at 13. Ray: Obviously you have a problem with hispanics, but mexicans aren't the only ones in gangs. There's pretty nasty white trash people raising kids to be just like them. Gangs are a problem yes, so instead of blaming people how about we just pray that the brother decides to change his lifestyle so his new baby brother or sister won't end up dead at 13 . We really don't know EVERYTHING that went down when it happened so let's just be mature about it, and let the boy rest in peace . Oh and by the way, to whoever tried saying that working mom's are the reason for gangs, my mom has been working her A%$ off since i was three months old and i'm not in a gang ? or doing drugs ? watch what you say because what's coming out of your mouth is pure stupidity . Rest In Peace little guy .
When you own up or BLAME yourself thats the start of change. This kid should have stayed home with his parents not out looking for trouble. You reap what you plant.
line 20. " What will it take for the people of Fallbrook to finally wake up? a "hillie child" killed by a gang member? " Are you saying the life of a "hillie" kid is more valuable than the 13 year old that was killed?
I had a dream about him like a week ago , he was telling me that he wishes he never got into what lead to his death , he wishes he wasn't gone because of everything hes missing out on , :/ i really felt his pain&i still do . :*/ i was sooo heart broken when i heard the news!&all this gang stuff needs to stopp! we don't need stuff like this to happen anymore! if people are really hurt about this why don't they just quitee it&grow up! R.I.P ,Franky Lopez , you will NEVER be forgotten little one ! :/
People who are in gangs don't always choose to be. They are brought in by family, friends, something pulls them in and once they are sucked in they can't just walk away. It's much more difficult than you would think.
You gotta love the kid who goes by the name **** ray. Sorry for your loss son, but you REALLY need to stay in school. Or go at all, because your grammatical skills are less than sub par. Try getting an education. We will see the crime rates start falling, and your friends stop falling.
Focus on change instead of pointing fingers. What can our community do to reach out to kids who are at risk for entering the gang lifestyle? Instead of funding our money into lobster bake fundraisers, why don't we do something real and concrete for our kids? Let's fund some real after school programs, or places that youth of all backgrounds can congregate and channel their energies in a positive way. I felt like after reading all of the comments, wildheart #67's comment cut to the real marrow of the matter. How sad is it to know that 10 years ago someone cared and didn't get the support they asked for, and now is responding to an article about a young man's death at the hands of gang-related violence? It's not about race, welfare, or mom's going out into the workforce (seriously, Mrs. Duggar?). Let's get out of this Mayberry-mentality-mode and stop putting money into areas of our community that line pockets for personal gain and actually make a difference in the lives of our very bored Fallbrook youths. I am open to ideas if anyone has any.
Not one day goes by that I don't think of Franky. When I look at the new library even, I think of Franky. I can imagine his eyes lighting up at the sight of the new structure. I have had dreams about him. Anyway does anyone reading know if his baby brother has been born yet? I'll keep my eyes and ears out for the news. I really get the feeling that the baby's birth might be very healing, but who knows, I will not assume anything. I think that is where we all can get into trouble, guessing what someone like Franky's mother is feeling.
10-06-10 happy birthdayfrank.
Post 128 He can't hear you. Because of poor thinking By the adults in his life!!
franky ilove you soo muuuch & miss yooou!! ![]()
R.I.P franky (: we loove you ...
YOU people our really sick by this show affection on the net, talk about low as it can go. How about taking care of the boy when he was alive!! Showing him what NOT todo.
NOBODY NEW THAT WE WERE GOING OUT BUT NOW WERE JUST FRIENDS I LOVE YOU 4 EVER RIP BABY
13 year old with a girlfrient; WOW This story just can't get anymore pathetic.
the cops still havent found the person that shot, why? - who knows whyy. Yet to make their jobs easier they wanna put all blame in his older brother, who went to protect him, im sure they didnt go over to vista to fight, they probably went to their aunts house that lives down the street from where the incident happen. the cops should work a lil harder to find this murder, instead of having his 2 older brothers locked up for something they didnt do. Rip Franky Lopez; You will NEvER be Forgotten, & I Will ALWAYS keep you in my heart. people this isnt about gang violence is about cops doing their job instead of just making their life easier...FIND THE FREAKEN MURDER & leave this FAMILy alone, that im sure they been trough enough pain.
Brothers in Jail. GOOD
First his brother is in a gang why would the mom allow him to be with him if she did care about her son. I am a mother and if i had one bad seed I would not allow the rest of my children to be with him second why do people have to refirm to him as homie. Get the Hispanics who are trouble out of here. get of food stamps and stop having babies. Enough Enough Enough go back to Mexico and stop waisting my $$$$$$$
Wow, I feel bad that this 13 year old lost his life and the result, people posting racist and hate filled remarks. Really sad. I encourage many of you to study harder in school, read more, work on your grammer...you'll get nowhere with the skills you have. As for the race issue, I don't live in Fallbrook, or California, however my children are half Latino, bilingual and well educated. I feel they are no better or worse than any other race. In case some of you have forgotten, we are all part of the same race, the human race. I wish Fallbrook the best, it is a beautiful town, please take care of it. God bless.
iMiss Youu Franky And iLoveYOu . iWill Neva Forqeeht The Guud Times We Had , Our Child Hood , Best Thanq Eva ! Te Quiero Muchoo ' Yur Inah Guud Place ' /:
im so sorry for what happen rest in peace boy
This is an interesting time we are living in with our 18-24 year old marines living on our street getting shot at by terrorists in another country and their families grieve quietly.. and across the street we have the same aged kids growing up becoming local terrorists. Mm. maybe more local recruiting can help make a difference from men to boys? Fallbrook barrio is really a great place to live with men and women living next to me who really serve our Country with all the bullet holes, heartbreaks, missing limbs, family crisis and mental anguish that goes on every day quietly. Many of you are single parents too. Thank you+ I'ts almost Easter folks, let's remember the real definition of 'criminal' in the bible.. sinner. Love conquers all. Just sayN/
WE WILL ALL MISS YOU YOU WILL BE IN OUR HEARTS 4EVER R.I.P FRANKY LOPEZ
he shouldn't have been in our vario.
Go to school and get a LIFE manny!!
gone but NEVER forgotten , rest with the angels Franky
Gone But NOT Forgotten R.I.P Dirtayyyyyy ;/ We Love You (:
R.I.P. Little homie you will never be forgoton much LOVE to you and your FamiLia Thera is never a day that I do not think about you homie F's up
I am glad that I don't live in Fallbrook anymore. It was such a nice quiet town 20 years ago.
I was just thinking about you I member wen we used to play fight at my house well R.I.P FRANKY UR IN A BETTER PLACE NOW
Im soory for what happen to that baby boy but lets pray for his family, We will always have him in our hearts and will always remember him. ![]()
It's really sad for what happen to my primo and everyone that new him well always have him in their heart.
R.I.P. LITTLE HOMIE MUCH LOVE FOR YOU ESE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART I MISS U HOMIE I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE SAID ALRIGHT HOMIE TAKE CARE AND SHOOK HANDS F's Up HOMIE ![]()
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