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Sheriff's cars blocked access to a portion of Elbrook Drive in Fallbrook Monday afternoon and evening due to a suicide and attempted murder.
Sheriff's cars blocked access to a portion of Elbrook Drive in Fallbrook Monday afternoon and evening due to a suicide and attempted murder.

Marine commits suicide; wife badly beaten


Monday, October 27th, 2008
Issue 44, Volume 12.
Andrea Verdin
Staff Writer
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Updated Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Sheriff’s deputies found Sgt. Braulio V. Martinez, a 28-year-old Marine sergeant dead in the garage of his home in the 600 block of Elbrook Drive at 1:43 p.m. Monday, October 27. According to Sheriff’s Homicide Lt. Dennis Brugos, Martinez committed suicide by hanging.

The scene was discovered when two representatives from Camp Pendleton came to do a welfare check on the Marine, an active duty sergeant, when he failed to report on base at his assigned time of 7:30 Monday morning.

"They noticed that both [the Marine's and his wife's] vehicles were in the driveways," said Brugos. "They alerted the Sheriff's office and when deputies went in they found the Marine dead in the garage. He had hung himself."

The Sheriff’s deputies conducted a search of the home and found Martinez’ wife unconscious, having suffered blunt force trauma injuries to the head. Brugos estimated that the woman is in her mid-20s.

The woman was alive but unconscious and her condition was deemed critical. She was airlifted to Palomar Medical Center. Her condition is unknown, but Brugos said "whoever injured her injured her intending death."

Investigators have not determined what type of weapon was used to injure her.

Once investigators began arriving on the scene, neighbors started voicing their concern for the couple's twin 5-year-olds. The children, known to have special needs, were not at home.

Officials say the children were found safe at another Fallbrook residence where they were being babysat. Child Protective Services was called to check on the children's wellbeing.

Brugos said investigators did find a note at the home, "possibly a suicide-type." He also said records are being researched to see if the couple had a history of domestic disputes.

According to sources on Camp Pendleton, Martinez was a native of Hidalgo, Texas, who served as the Safety noncommissioned officer for Headquarters and Support Battalion, Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton. He joined the Marine Corps November 10, 2003, and was deployed twice in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Martinez earned the following awards during his 59 months of service: Combat Action Ribbon, Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation, Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Humanitarian Service Medal and Sea Service Deployment Ribbon.

The full name of Martinez’ wife has not been released. Authorities say she remains in critical condition in an area hospital.

(Earlier version of story below)

Monday, October 27, 2008

Sheriff’s deputies discovered a Marine dead in the garage of his home in the 600 block of Elbrook Drive in Fallbrook at 1:43 p.m. today. According to Sheriff’s Homicide Lt. Dennis Brugos, the Marine, said to be mid-20s to mid-30s in age, committed suicide by hanging.

Brugos said after the Marine did not report for work on Camp Pendleton at his scheduled time of 7:30 this morning, two representatives from the Base made a welfare check on him at his home.

"They noticed that both [the Marine’s and his wife’s] vehicles were in the driveway," said Brugos. "They alerted the Sheriff’s office and when deputies went in, they found the Marine dead in the garage. He had hung himself."

Officers then conducted a search of the house and found the Marine’s wife unconscious, suffering from blunt force trauma injuries, in a back room of the dwelling. Brugos estimated the wife’s age to be mid-20s.

"She was still alive but unconscious and was airlifted to an area hospital," Brugos said. "Whoever injured her injured her intending death."

Brugos said the woman’s condition is unknown at this time and said investigators have not determined what type of weapon was used to injure her.

Shortly after officers arrived at the crime scene, concern was voiced about the whereabouts of the couple’s twin 5-year-olds, who were not at the scene. Officials now say the children have been found safe at another residence in Fallbrook.

Brugos said investigators did find a note at the home, "possibly a suicide-type." He also said records are being researched to see if the couple had a history of domestic disputes.

The identities of the man and woman have not been released pending notification of next of kin.

Watch this Web site for more updates as they become available.


 

166 comments

Comment Profile ImageFriend
Comment #1
I cannot believe this happened to this young couple. I was an acquaintance of them. They seem like a happy family. Very responsible couple. Hope the wife is doing well for the sake the twins.
Comment Profile ImageFamily Acquaintance
Comment #2
This is the 2nd Murder-Suicide to rock our Special Needs Community in the past 2months, These are seemingly involved, responsible parents. What are we missing?
lack of resources for these Familys, Dealing with Special needs Children? or just a coincidence. Praying Mom survives
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #3
I guess he just listened to the voices. Too many tours, too much horror.
Comment Profile ImageSharon Gaudenti
Comment #4
We are sadden by this tragedy, again in Fallbrook. Praying for mother to survive through this tragic ordeal. What went wrong with this Marine? We as a community need to help this family, through this ordeal may we bless this familey and the needs of these special needs children.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #5
Kudos to the Village News for having the BEST coverage of this tragic event. My heart goes out to the wife and children. Since I only live two houses down and knew this Marine, it's tragic. I hope thw remaining members of his family recover and go on in life. Semper Fi.
Comment Profile ImageFamily
Comment #6
I don't understand why this happened to my aunt. We can only pray that she will recover for the sake of her boys cause they will need her. My prayers are with you tia.
Comment Profile ImageAnonymus
Comment #7
I don't live in Fallbrook but i used to and that is tragic news whats happening to that little town...??!!????? :(
Comment Profile ImageBrooketown resident
Comment #8
Sad, sad, sad....fidelity seems to be on its way "out" the way society encourages and glorifies affairs, cheating, and a loose lifestyle. Cant anyone be content with what they have these days? The only way to prevent these domestic murder(attempted murder) and suicides is to put family and marriage on the top of our priority list and leave our fantasies and lust in our head. Prayers to all affected by this.
Comment Profile ImageSharon Gaudenti
Comment #9
Fellow Marine. you must have known this marine well. why wasn't there help for him? did you no this fidelty of the mother of these special needs children was going on? If anyone did there should been more help for him. He had two special needs children. Guess he didn't think of them. May God Bless this familey.
Comment Profile ImageCindy
Comment #10
Fellow Marine,

Lovely! While i Strongly look down on Cheaters. i find Beating the mother of your child Almost to death Far more disgusting than infidelity. If this women does Survive she's gonna be Traumatized for the rest of her life, along with Raising two Special needs children on her Own. So instead of thinking about "Life insurance money and Hurt man pride" Look what his Selfishness has done to his own children Now they don't have a father. maybe not even a mother!

REALITY CHECK...
Comment Profile ImageAnonymus
Comment #11
Ive been reading all those comments and i dont think we have to juged them only God knows what happend. All we have to do is pray for his soul and for her life...
Comment Profile Imageanonymus
Comment #12
this shouldnt be an issue about cheating, who cares, there are better ways to handle it then trying to kill your wife, then taking your own life, they have 2 boys, and now they dont have a father, and all they have is there mother, i pray she pulls through... those boys need her.
Comment Profile Imagekaitra
Comment #13
this is terrible... i hope the mother pulls through or the kids... my thoughts are with the family
Comment Profile Imagefamily acquaintance
Comment #14
Dear Family, Wondering How The Mom is doing? and hoping
the Boys are with Family, and together. Praying for your Family
Comment Profile ImageJennie
Comment #15
The woman in question is my sister n law and unless the Fellow Marine has proof of this "infidelity" he speaks of he should not trash out our sister. She was a good wife and a great mother! I know this first hand, not of hear say or what might have been. We were shocked by the news and still having a hard time coping and are so worried about the children. The Fellow Marine can be outraged, but as for us, we are sick and numb. That 400 g's he speaks of can never come close to the love, comfort and care of your parents my nephews may be forced to live without. As far as for my brother n law, god rest his soul, he would have never stood for this Fellow Marine talking about his wife or hurting our family in the way he has in his comment. In my opinion that was very unbecomming of a Marine.
Comment Profile ImageFormer teacher
Comment #16
I am also sadden by this. My brother took his life because of an unfaithful wife. How sad. My thoughts are with you-marine friends-I am an army veteran myself. Our men and women defend our country while their home life goes to pot. What a shame to lose good soldiers over a bad home life. I am very saddened by this loss.
Comment Profile Imagemj
Comment #17
I can only say that I am sure this Marine was once stellar but his actions were far far less than that. how selfishly did he react to a situation that would have led him to take the consequenses of his actions but instead he leaves his two boys what he thought at the time orphans. that is not the actions of a stellar marine. the marine community has far MORE resources to deal with indifelity and special needs children than the regular civilan community. it is such a shame this family did not take the actions to seek help. such a tragedy where there are only losers. i pray for the boys, i just pray they are not being made aware of the cicumstances.
Comment Profile ImageOutraged Mom
Comment #18
Actually, the wife is up 500 g's, if she is the beneficiary of her husband's life insurance. A little known change was made in 2005 to the compensation given to the family of a fallen service member. Used to be, $12,500 was given to the family to tide them over and cover immediate expenses prior to the funding of the insurance benefits, which can take a few months. That sum has been raised to a whopping $100,000, by the present White House administration.

My son was estranged from his wife. She was not the beneficiary of his military insurance. When he took his own life, unable to cope with her infidelities, she received $100,000 - even though they were no longer living together. Even though, let me state again, she was NOT the beneficiary of his military life insurance policy. She got that money simply because they were still legally married.

She parlayed her blood money into a boob job, sports car, tons of clothes, gifts for her latest boyfriend, and exotic trips. That's what my son's life meant to her.

They had no children, thank goodness.

Also, mental health issues with military personnel need to be better and more consistently identified and addressed. There are an ALARMING and INCREASING number of suicides amongst our military personnel. We can't allow those who volunteer to protect and serve to be left without protection for their emotional and mental well-being.
Comment Profile Imageanonymous
Comment #19
i dont know what happened but that is horrible
Comment Profile ImageTruth
Comment #20
I only knew this young man for the past few months and I was shocked to hear of the events that took place at his home. My wife asked me, "I wonder what could have gone so wrong, he was such a nice, good looking, easy going guy". I told her it comes down to these four things: TRUTH, HONESTY, LOYALTY and RESPECT. More than likely, she violated one if not all, she was probably cheating. And as a footnote, I met her as well. She was a total bxxxx to him. I wish I could have been there to save him.
Comment Profile ImageJesus
Comment #21
"If any one of you is without sin, let him/her be the first to throw a stone at her." Words of Jesus Christ in Luke 8:10 Shame on you...we should all be sad.
Comment Profile ImageClose friend
Comment #22
I wish the rumors would stop! You didn't know them! And we do not know what went on with in close doors! They were close to me and i love them very much and i don't think either of them were at fault! Everyone has problems...I pray for both of them and the boys....and its not about money they love each other very much! His family meant the world to him!
Comment Profile ImageLeah
Comment #23
To Fellow Marine: I am sorry for the loss of your dear friend. I want to thank you for being straight about the infidelity and its horrors. My heart goes out to you and to the families involved.
To Brooketown resident: I agree with you, however, I would like to warn people about even having fantasies in their head. The MIND is where all of this starts. Infidelity and its wrecking havoc on families ALL starts in the mind. It is important to abdicate lust and fleeting thoughts from the mind also and put your energies into your spouse and children. To Outraged Mom: I am so sorry for the loss of your son. My heart goes out to you.
Comment Profile ImageOutraged Mom-in-Law
Comment #24
What a horrible thing to abandon special-needs children by choosing attempted murder of their mother and death. No child deserves that and neither did their mother.

I read in comments what a wonderful man he was and shady accusations that his wife was unfaithful. The statement in the comments that wives of Marines tend to find it hard to be faithful was an awful thing to say about the many thousands of Marine wives who sacrifice so much and are respected so little. And yes, I know infidelity occurs among Marine wives but it occurs just as frequently with Marine husbands. Furthermore, it ain't just Marine folks that may/may not be unfaithful. Alleged infidelity is NOT the crime here and the pointing of fingers and the excuses being made for this violence are not appropriate and extremely unkind to the victims.

This young wife and mother was beaten unmercifully and critically injured. Where is the OUTRAGE for this young woman and her children? There is NO reason or excuse, aside from insanity, to justify this crime.
Comment Profile Imageproudmarinewife
Comment #25
Fellow Marine i just wanted to say that not all of us marine wives are cheaters. nor do we disrespect our husbands that fight for this company. i just wanted to say that it is marines like you that make our military look bad. saying the things you just said. your a heartless piece of crap, and probably an even worse marine.how could you assume something like that?even if he had told you something like that happened, how do you know its the truth?seriously, grow up. go find another job because obviously, your not fit to be in the corps.Real marines would not be that disrespectful. regardless of the situation, why should her family have to suffer by reading this trash?if she did screw up, then ok...but still its not her families fault or her friends that could be reading this. if she did cheat, that is horrible, but its even worse for a grown man to take himself from his children, and attempt to take the mother from their children.
Comment Profile ImageProud Marine Wife...
Comment #26
Not all wives cheat, not all cheating wives are married to marines!!!
Comment Profile ImageNiece
Comment #27
It is an outrage to make comments about life insurance and infedility of my aunt and uncle. I believe that is pushing things to the limit in a situation like this one. My uncle may have been a stellar marine but that plays no part in his duty as a husband and father. It discust me that a marine would be so selfish to make comment and think about infedilty and money like the fellow marine that commented. You cannot put yourself in this marines boots. Yes my heart goes out to my uncle but I have an aunt fighting for the sake of her two children.....Te quiero tia....Que dios te da la fuersa!
Comment Profile ImageA Marine's Wife
Comment #28
Wow this is a sad horrible thing that happened too a family!! And all that "fellow marine" can say is that it's her fault for infidelity!! Are you kidding me!! That did not give your "stellar marine" the right to beat her and leave her to die!! You say he she didn't care about her family apparently he didn't either!! For what he did now the twins might now have a mother, and left with no parents!!!! I hope she makes it and all the love to her and the twins!!! And yes i am a military wife and i have been now married for 6yrs and i love my husband and i support him as much as he supports me. What "fellow marine" did you kill your wife for cheating on you??
Comment Profile ImageMarine Wife
Comment #29
Ok for one.. NOT ALL MARINE WIVES CHEAT... I am not saying in this case the wife did.. She may have.. But thats her perogative.. I am a Marine Wife and I would never cheat on my husband.. And I know a lot of other marine wives that have never cheated nor ever would.. To me its soly putting the blame on the wife.. There could be a number of reasons why this marine did what he did.. No one will ever know.. But It says no where in the report that he killed himself because she cheated.. And please NOT ALL MARINE WIVES CHEAT.....
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Comment Profile ImageMarine Wife
Comment #30
I feel for the wife and those children. I will keep the family in my prayers..
Comment Profile ImageFYI
Comment #31
Fellow Marine-Suicide...she gets no money. Plenty of Marines are cheated on and file for divorce instead of trying to kill their wives, you need to check yourself and stop making assumptions you have no clue what you are talking about and you know what they say about people who assume...
Comment Profile ImageJulie
Comment #32
My prayers go to the children, and to the injured woman.

For those of you who seem to think that this man's behavior was justified...my husband spent 21 years in the Marine Corps and never once would he have tried to excuse this kind of behavior. Also, I know FAR more Marines who have cheated on their wives than vice versa. If that woman does get the insurance money -- and I hope she does -- she will need it to raise those children. No matter whether someone cheated or not, the kids still have to be raised without a father.

Those of you who are blamiing the wife should be ashamed of yourselves. All of you.
Comment Profile ImageJennifer/Niece
Comment #33
To TRUTH: How can you sit there and type those words about my aunt, you didn't know her personally and your making accusations about her. She sacrificed everything for her kids and her husband. Moved state to state with him was by his side at every judgement that he made. To me that is the ideal wife there. As to the infidelity in question. You are right things happen behind close doors that we don't know and even family don't know. But tell me why is it that when you read about something like this happening to our military personel why is it automatically infidelity!!!!!! Could it be the emotions of coming back from a place like IRAQ. I had a military friend that when he came back from tour he wasn't himself at all. He had problems could it be that...and the everyday problems that relationships have. I know my aunt wouldn't of cheated and I know my uncle wouldn't of. So out of respect for the family i ask you no more accusations of this nonsense until the truth comes out and it will. Very soon. As for the boys in question hopefully they will be released to her sister. As for my aunt she is responsive to her sisters voice but that is all we know right now. Love you tia
Comment Profile ImageExMarineandWifeofOne
Comment #34
Not all wifes cheat. It is a shame this happened this way however, we should remember him for being a Marine...not as the Marine that was cheated on by his wife. Let him atleast have his title of a Marine and let it be.

No one has the position to say who what what. We didn't live with them. You only hear "hear-say". Let them lay in peace and pray for those children.
Comment Profile ImageFriend
Comment #35
First of all to FELLOW MARINE, you have no idea what you are talking about. You have no right to make assumptions that she cheated on him. She loved her family very much. Her family means the world to her. If this was not the case she could have left him along time ago, and not stood by him taking care of her Two boys by herself while he was in Iraq. The entire time she stood by him with her two boys far away from her family all alone. She had no one their in California. The only reason she was there was for him. Families have problems, but they work through them. Going to Iraq and seeing all that is seen will change a person. There is never a good reason to attempt to take someone’s life, or taking your own. I think something may have just gotten into his head. From what I understand she never had a chance to defend herself. People need to stop insinuating thing and pray that she come through this ok. That she is able to raise her two boys, and be able to watch them grow up. May god hear our prayers and that she keeps fighting for her two boys. We Love you keep fighting, and we know he did too; something just went wrong in his head.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #36
Correct me if I am wrong, nothing in this story indicates the Marine or his wife were unfaithful. Assuming such would be speculation, nothing more. Ever think he might have got tired of all the tours of duty fighting people who have done him no harm in a war that is unclear. PTSD is very common in returning soldiers especially in Gulf War vets. The Marines spend billions in training, fighting but little to nothing after the soldier returns to assist in his mental condition. Stay on message folks, let's not dishonor the dead. And by the way, if a soldier commits suicide, as in all insurance policies, the family gets nothing unless the death was combat, accidental or duty related.
Comment Profile ImageMarine wife
Comment #37
I dont find it hard at all to be faithful to my husband like someone had mentioned above its about respect! To your self as well as him. i am friends with this family and i know he had have been to pushed to far for him to do such thing...there isnt much i can say but that i care for them and my heart aches for all 4 of them. and i hope she makes it! For the boys. my prayers are with them
Comment Profile ImageJust Curious
Comment #38
Last night (10/28) there seemed to be quite a bit of police action on Elbrook street near the 600 block. Does anyone know what that was all about? There must have been 4-5 police cars including the police SUV. (Flashing lights and all) Any relation to this situation, or simply a coincidence?
Comment Profile ImageRememberThisIsTheInternet
Comment #39
I'm saddened by all of the speculation and allegations of what happened. We only really know three facts:
1. A man was hung in his garage possibly self-inflicted according to the Sheriff.
2. His wife was beaten nearly to death.
3. Their two kids are safe.

All the other comments about cheating, etc are possiblity written by people who don't really know the family. This is the internet, I'm writing this from another state. Some/many of these comments could be from people from other states and countries.

Regardless, God bless this family and remember, your purpose is to not judge others and to justify/rationalize violence is one of the greatest sins.
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #40
Just Curious. The action on Elbrook was from my crack head neighbor who was beating his girlfriend. The police responded due to a 911 call.
Comment Profile ImageExMarineandWifeofOne
Comment #41
Fellow Marine,
You are right when it comes to wives not understanding how important it is to stand by your Marine. I feel your anger as a fellow Marine because at one time I was one. Wives don't understand how important it is to love and be faithful. Some are, some are not. But for all the wives who see their hubbies off in the morning with a smile and a kiss, thank you. Before your Marine goes to work everyday, kiss them, tell him/her you love them and see you when they get home. It makes their day a whole lot better to know they are coming home.
Comment Profile ImageTexas Friend
Comment #42
To Fellow Marine....it is so sad that you would say such things. You may have worked side by side with this man, but I am sure you don't know the truth. And you putting this information on the internet is even worse. Does your superiors know that you are leaking what should be confidential information on the internet? Let the authorites figure this out...and keep out of it. There are many more people out there that are qualified to do this investigation without your help. Maybe try saying a prayer for the boys. After all they are the ones will suffer. And like another poster said...you give all marines a bad name. You are taking your hostility for another situation out on this family. Nothing was done to you so leave it be.
Comment Profile ImageJust Curious
Comment #43
Thank you Ray - not trying to get off subject here, but I was concerned. I live right up the street. Neighborhood watch anyone?
Comment Profile ImageNiece
Comment #44
I just want to say one last thing to the Fellow Marine.....He didn't have to take his life...And it wasn't her fault of his death. I thought you said ", lets stop pointing fingers at who is to blame."
It was what he wasn't capable of understanding/controlling within himself, No matter what the circumstances of the situation. If he would of died in the line of duty, I would understand how that would hurt. But this marine decided to take another persons life into his own hands and knew what he was doing, and that's why he took his own life. I would recommend that you and your fellow soldier get counciling to understand the difference in the "eyes of a soldier" and they "eyes of a civilian". I ask God to bless you for the integrity you bring the rest of us for fighting for our country. And I ask that he help you in the future for any problems you may face that you are uncapable of handling. May you for come a situation that of which Sgt. Martinez did not. Say what you have to but all of this shouldn't not have happened.God Bless!
Comment Profile ImageTexas Friend
Comment #45
To Fellow Marine....maybe he was the one cheating and you were the one he was cheating with.....why else would you get so upset?
Comment Profile ImageRay
Comment #46
Tried to gather people at the crime commission meeting last night but my neighbor "plugged" up my driveway with his truck so I could not attend. I have been interested in a "watch" since the couple got attacked on Main Avenue, Working on it.Got the radios, got the plan, just need the folks.
Comment Profile Imagelori-air force mom
Comment #47
my thoughts and prayers to all involved, mostly for the children. they are now going to have to live a life without their father. they are the priority here, they are the ones that everyone needs to be concerned about (family that is that needs to be concerned). which i am sure you are, so please don't get me wrong on that comment.
fellow marine...i'm sorry you are so upset at the death of obviously a good friend. if the wife did cheat, why would a man who wears a uniform that is here to protect our country beat her up to almost death? what does that say for our country!? what happened to seeking counsel?? and...since you seem to know so much about it, here is my thought. you cheated with him. his wife found out and approached him and they got into an arguement and he blew up on her, realized he had been wrong by cheating and the thought that he possibly just killed his wife was more than he could handle so he hung himself.
there is only one person who can judge...that is God himself.
my thoughts and prayers do go out to the marine, his wife, their children and both families. no matter what happened, the loss of a loved one is never easy.
Comment Profile Imagescgirl
Comment #48
Texas Friend, I had the same thought. Thank you for having the guts to post it.

I personally have had enough of the Marine Corps, who have left enough of us without husbands, child support and fathers.

Besides the obvious, that You know what's extremely sad? There are probably hundreds of us EX Marine wives out there (myself included) who read this story and said, "THANK GOD THAT WASN'T ME, because it very well could have had I not gotten out when i did."
Comment Profile ImageRememberThisIsTheInternet
Comment #49
I just read the recent comments of "Fellow Marine." I'm sure your views are in the very minority of Marines. If you really knew about Braulio problems, didn't others too? There are many non-violent avenues for dealing with life's common problems, of which, unfortunately, infidelity is one. These problems never ever justify violence. If Braulio was in fact the one who assulted his wife, then this also shows that Braulio had his own set of issues that he is responsible for. I bet neither are angels. Remember, violence begets more violence and leaves a horrible trail. Their two kids will be scarred for life and yet, they had nothing to do with any of these purported issues.

Also, Fellow Marine, to say "I hope on everything that his wife does live and is traumatized for life. Maybe next time she'll think twice." I really hope for you and your family's sake that you get some needed help too. That cannot be the voice of a common Marine.
Comment Profile Imagehonest
Comment #50
that was my first thought Texas friend
Comment Profile ImageRev. Tom
Comment #51
Family and friends,

I am saddened by some of the comments and judgements made regarding this Marine who took his own life, and his wife, who is now fighting to save her own. I know this will be very difficult for these two beautiful boys who were loved so much by both their mother and father. They have special needs and in a way their innocence has spared them from the details of this tragedy. No doubt they are wondering and fearful as to where their mom and dad are.

Thank you to the person who posted comments on RememberThisIsTheInternet. At this hour, she is in an intensive care hospital room with all the equipment needed to sustain her life. The trauma was severe and I hope you would take time today and in the coming days, weeks, and months to remember her in prayer, as she recovers from this. Remember also his family who will receive his body and bury their son, brother, uncle, friend, husband, father, etc. in the coming days. May God bring strength, comfort, hope, and peace to all who knew and loved him.

I have known the family for over four years now because of our son, a fellow Marine, who served in his same unit, on those same two tours to Iraq. We had the opportunity to see the boys just shortly after they were born and have seen them grow on visits, when they were passing through San Antonio on their way to the Rio Grande Valley. I even visited with them in their home, on visits made to Camp Pendleton. He loved his sons and his high school sweetheart, and likewise, she loved and was very committed to caring for the boys and for her Marine.

Marriage can be tough, and when young and separated from family and friends with the birth of twin sons, and not one, but two boys with special needs, having to fight the system tooth and nail to obtain proper medical help for your children, having to make sacrifices because you are on a tight budget, throw in times of military separation, the stress of your husband at war, knowing that you sent a Marine who left one way and returns from war another, and no doubt so many other challenges faced. So many things we will never know. The sad reality is that these are the challenges many military couples are faced to cope with on a daily basis!

Their everyday demands and challenges were compounded by the needs of the boys. But, you would never know it from her upbeat nature and positive outlook on things. She was was looking forward to having her own home and seeing that the boys had the best care. He was laid back, good natured, quiet and reserved. He would give you the shirt off his back, if you asked him. Those of you who knew them, who served with him, who spent time with her, no doubt, have your own insights to share.

We may never know what happened to trigger these events, so that he could not cope with the stress of life anymore. He lived with the trauma from going to war and making it back. I would hope that this might serve as as a wake up call for our Marines and their military families to get the help that they need. We were not created to handle the psychological and emotional stress forced upon all who have witnessed the horrors of war.

May we also remember their families who are now having to pick up the pieces and make sense of this terrible tragedy, You are remembered in our prayers. Never forget that God is our strength in times of trouble. Let me end with a prayer.


Almighty and Holy God, we come before your presence at this hour remembering this Marine family. We pray that You, our great Physician and Healer will touch the broken body of this young mother and wife. Give her strength, fill her with hope, in these coming days and weeks as she recovers. Let each new day bring progress toward her healing and recovery. Guide the medical staff as they attend to her. Be her strength and companion there in the hospital room.

We remember the children who are now having to make sense of why they are not with their mother or father. Enable them to be at peace and may they find strength in their parent's love and also be a strength to their mother. Be with their care providers and keep them safe.

We pray for the funeral preparations, asking that You be with family and friends, as they gather to remember and celebrate the life of one who is now in your presence. We read in God's Word: "In life and in death we belong to God. If we live, we live unto the Lord, and if we die, we die unto the Lord, so whether we live or whether we die, we belong to the Lord." Romans 14:8

Heavenly Father, continue to be with family and friends, the Marine community, and all who have been touched by this family's tragedy. Grant us your peace.

In the Name of the Living God, Jesus the Christ, we pray. Amen.
Comment Profile ImageFellow FEMALE Marine
Comment #52
I worked with this Marine while I was stationed at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton. He was the most soft spoken, gentle hearted man that I had the PLEASURE of working with.

His interest was providing for his family and supporting his Marines. I watched as he lead his Marines and was an outstanding role model.

I do hope that there is an investigation to determine the reasons that he snapped. I also hope that if the rumors that are going around "our community" the Marine Corps, are true then she gets nothing. The children should get it all since they are the ones who will need it in the future.

I also pray that those two sweet boys are provided a guardian who will provide for them, love them, and care for them like Sgt. Martinez.

He was an outstanding Marine and will be greatly missed not only by myself but also all Marines that he served with.
Comment Profile ImageA PERSON WITH COMMON SENSE!!!
Comment #53
EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND PRAY FOR THE FAMILY! YEAH!! BELIEVE IT!! I SAID IT!! SHUT UP AND JUST PRAY!!! I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE HARD FOR SOME OF YOU SINCE SOME OF YOU SEEM TO HAVE NO HEART AT ALL, DO IT ANYWAY GOD WILL LISTEN TO EVEN YOU!!! SHAME ON YOU ALL FOR YOUR HEARTLESSNESS AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU TOO...SERIOUSLY!!!
Comment Profile ImageTragic
Comment #54
This is a tragic loss to the Marine Corps. I worked with this Marine on a daily basis. He was a very educated and polite person. He went out of his way to make sure that the mission was always completed to the best of his ability. I do know that he loved the Corps and the Marines that he served with. I am simply at a loss for words. I hope that his children will always remember that their father loved the very much.
Comment Profile ImageOutraged Mom
Comment #55
Actually, the wife is up 500 g's, if she is the beneficiary of her husband's life insurance. A little known change was made in 2005 to the compensation given to the family of a fallen service member. Used to be, $12,500 was given to the family to tide them over and cover immediate expenses prior to the funding of the insurance benefits, which can take a few months. That sum has been raised to a whopping $100,000, by the present White House administration.

My son was estranged from his wife. She was not the beneficiary of his military insurance. When he took his own life, unable to cope with her infidelities, she received $100,000 - even though they were no longer living together. Even though, let me state again, she was NOT the beneficiary of his military life insurance policy. She got that money simply because they were still legally married.

She parlayed her blood money into a boob job, sports car, tons of clothes, gifts for her latest boyfriend, and exotic trips. That's what my son's life meant to her.

They had no children, thank goodness.

Also, mental health issues with military personnel need to be better and more consistently identified and addressed. There are an ALARMING and INCREASING number of suicides amongst our military personnel. We can't allow those who volunteer to protect and serve to be left without protection for their emotional and mental well-being.
Comment Profile ImageOutraged Mom-in-Law
Comment #56
Fellow FEMALE Marine,
You continue to slander not only the victim but other Marine wives with your rumor-mongering. The man you vehemently keep defending intended and believed his wife, mother of his children, was dead before he killed himself. It is a tragic scenario but there is NO excuse or reason, aside from insanity, for such horror.

Despite what you keep spouting about how wonderful the husband was, the fact is he INTENDED to kill his wife and leave his children without mother or father to a system that is most unkind to special needs children. The fact that he snapped is horrible enough without your continuing to blame his wife who is fighting for her life. And your continuing outrageous comments that his wife deserves nothing in insurance is equally horrible. Do you even have a clue how expensive it is to raise special-needs children?? He chose NOT to financially support his children when he killed himself.

Outstanding Marines do NOT try to murder their wives and orphan their children. Outstanding Marines just like outstanding civilians all face problems that are never solved by domestic violence. Domestic violence is not caused by its victims. Please stop with your outrageous blame.

BTW, Fellow Marine, you should know that the Marine Corp has a ZERO TOLERANCE for domestic violence. Outstanding Marines are not Marines for long if they beat their wives.

God Himself will judge Sgt. Martinez. I myself choose to pray for his critically injured wife and their children.
Comment Profile ImageIrish Momma
Comment #57
Can we stop all of this now? This is a personal issue and unless you are the family you have no right putting information out here on the internet and exposing the family even more. Please just respect the family and their wishes.
Comment Profile ImageSgtMartinezFriend
Comment #58
I heard about these posting through a friend. I can't believe-Fellow "Female" Marine, you would disrespect him like this in front of God And Country. You should not put his life out there. That is not your decison to speak his final words for him.

Stop letting people know about his life. I worked with him as well and I know that if he was here, he WOULD NOT like what you are saying to the public. Please stop and honor him AS A MARINE.
Comment Profile ImageIrish Momma
Comment #59
Can we stop all of this now? This is a personal issue and unless you are the family you have no right putting information out here on the internet and exposing the family even more. Please just respect the family and their wishes.
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Comment Profile ImageIrish Momma
Comment #60
Can we stop all of this now? This is a personal issue and unless you are the family you have no right putting information out here on the internet and exposing the family even more. Please just respect the family and their wishes.
Comment Profile Imageamarineswife2
Comment #61
first off this is a very sad situation period. There is no excuse for violence to one another.Im sorry to hear about this horrible tragedy. I pray for the family and children and mother. hope she recovers quickly. "fellow Female Marine" since you say that marine wifes cant be faithful to there husbands would it be safe to assume that all female marines sleep around with military men??????
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Comment #62
fellow marine, i am outraged at your conduct of a marine!
to slander his wife is even worse, do you think he actually did his actions outo f ahtred...you silly fool, he LOVED his wife, that is what family domestic violence stems from. you ever take a moment to think what your "stellar marine" would think of you not only dragging his name down but that of his wife he so dearly loved.
I pray your heart is not as hardened as you write. to wish ill-will and a life of despair on anyone...you need to go see your mental health dept. at the naval hospital ASAP.
Comment Profile ImageStormy
Comment #63
I am the mother inlaw of a wonderful marine and I worry about him going on deployment and coming home a different man then when he left. I have talked to him at great length and he worries about this too. We as a family continue to support him and help him adjust when he comes home, but I wont put up with any type of harsh or violent reactions to ordinary life. I dont care what he sees or lives through. We all have to be responsible for our own behavior. I believe taking your own life is the most selfish act you can do. Not to mention the stress of having children with disabilities. I have a disabled daughter and am divorced. I too know the stress that puts on a family. There are public programs available to everyone who lives in the great USA. It is a matter of knowledge is power. Nothing on this earth warrants killing yourself and beating your wife almost to death. I dont care how mild mannered someone is at work or in public. Anger is Anger and if it is not controlled and managed, then tradgedies like this occur. I dont care how much of a b----- she was to him fellow marine, she didnt deserve to beaten half to death. In the real world this is not accepted. If you have this view point, fellow marine, I pity you. That means you believe you deserve the same thing if you mess up. Where is your dignity? You are immature to write about your superior this way. It is certainly not the way to honor him or his family or your fellow Marine family. Shame on you. You need to shut up and ask forgiveness for running your mouth. Unless you lived in their house and in their bedroom, you have no idea noone does.
Comment Profile ImageMore Truth
Comment #64
Fact: she did CHEAT. I wish I could print the name of who she was having an affair with.
Fact: she had quite a mouth and dis-respect in the way she spoke to him.
I will miss him and regret his desicion to take HIS life. If only you knew-he was the Victim. As her-WHATEVER.
Comment Profile ImageGuy
Comment #65
Sgt. Braulio V. Martinez,

Military decorations include:

A Combat Action Ribbon,
Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation,
Good Conduct Medal,
National Defense Service Medal,
Iraq Campaign Medal,
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal Global War on Terrorism Service Medal Humanitarian Service Medal
and Sea Service Deployment Ribbon.

He was a good man,
This is not the first time this happened, or will it be the last time this will happens. We are all under hard times. I cannot say what was the piece of straw, that broke the camels back. All we are searching for is the truth, and it will come out in the end. This is why we have the freedom to post these comments, to voice our opinions in time of need. People who use this message board for there own benefit should be ashamed of themselves. And Yes our Vets need more help, especially in the time of war. Lets see if the Fallbrook Sheriffs do there job. To find out what really happened, to put this to rest.
And may God lead this Warrior to Heaven.
Comment Profile ImageAnother Fellow Marine
Comment #66
Thank you "A Fellow Marine" and "A Fellow Female Marine". For the first time in my many years of service, and I mean many, I am ashamed to be a Marine. You are making allegations on an open forum about something you probably have no clue about. If there was infidelity, she will be judged by God; it is not your place to judge nor is it your place to drag this family through the mud as you are doing. Also you need to realize that Sgt Martinez will be judged by God for his actions as well. Don’t get me wrong, I detest infidelity and the harm it does to the party who has been cheated on as well as what it does to the Marine Corps.

Now, both of you need to stop what you are doing. Let this family grieve for the loss of a loved one and pray for the healing of the mother of those two boys. If you are hurting, don’t lay out your feelings on the internet. Go see a chaplain or seek grief counseling through the family advocacy center. Talk to your fellow Marines, the ones who knew Sgt Martinez, and express your love and admiration for him. Remember the good times and do not dwell on what you “believe” to be true. One person has already said it in this post: “When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ‘If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.’” John 8:7 Or maybe this will hit home a little more, only you will know for sure: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:1-2 Both of these are the words of Jesus and you need to ponder them.

Before you say something like, "You didn't know Sgt Martinez." allow me to inform you that I did know him, not well, but what I did know of him he was a great man and a great Marine. I for one do not want his memory stained and tainted by your thoughtless comments.
Comment Profile Imagepraying for everyone involved
Comment #67
Fellow Marine if you knew all of this why didnt you tell someone about what was going on? Maybe since you knew so much you could have prevented it?! You had to know how upset he was! You could have told his superior?! Maybe the welfare check could have been done sooner.
Comment Profile Imagefallbrook resident
Comment #68
I agree with you fellow marine, I have a nephew who's wife was with another man while my nephew was in iraq serving our country. My own husband is currently deploy and I know how hard it can be for a couple to be separated for a long time.I maintain my self busy to avoid any tentations, but I know that alot of young wifes do not how to deal with the loneliness of being away from your husband, most of them are too young to really understand and support their husbands. The military need to have more support for this families and teach the wifes how to support their husbands in a beeter way.Also the decline in our society of moral values has a lot of influence on this situations.My prayers for the family involve and their children.
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Comment #69
To Fellow Marine: Do you know why she was in Texas while he was deployed...Let me be the first to tell you what she was doing. She was in the process of getting her kids diagnosed for the special needs. Going to doctor visit and trying to get the best help for her kids and was doing it while her husband was in Iraq all alone. Thank goodness that she was around family that was willing to help with the boys cause not everyone can handle them. She never had time for herself it was always for the boys. You should listen to you fellow marine "Sgt. Martinez friend" that your Sargent would not want you talking about his family in such a way that you are. Let it be and just pray for him and his family and his kids and also his wife if you could. There should be no blame at all as to what has happened to this family. It's a tragic thing but we have all lost someone dear to us in all this chaos. We lost a steller Marine, a good husband and great father. Just remember that and not all the negativity. God Bless
Comment Profile ImageStormy
Comment #70
I believe "another fellow marine" hit the nail on the head. I believe you can be proud to be a Marine. In any organization there is going to be issues. I think the military has plenty of support, it is sometimes pride that keeps people from going to get the help they need. They dont want to appear vulnerable so they keep all of their emotions and anger built up until they make mistakes that change their whole life and the life of their families. Forgiveness is a powerful emotion that sets us free. If everyone in the world practiced this their would be no need for the military. My hope and prayers will go to the boys and their mother. She will forever blame herself for her husbands death and wonder if she could have avoided the outcome. That is if she ever gets well enough to grieve. I believe every person who knew this sgt. blames themselves a little for not helping him with his pain. It is called grief. This should be a lesson for all of you to handle your own business in a more positive way. There are always options in any given situation. Once you are gone and off this earth you cannot change the outcome of your future. Have hope in your heart and enjoy the positive things in your life. If you let go of these negative feelings, you are opening the door for good things to happen to you. Just a little motherly and grandmotherly advice. Stop all of this tit for tat and hold your heads up high and be proud to serve this great country where you can express yourself freely. You serve the greatest country in the world.
Comment Profile ImageThe truth
Comment #71
Maybe it was his command that failed him. He did reach out for help to his SSgt I know for a fact. I listened as they talked about his problems with his home life. It was laughed upon by the SSgt. I am a junior Marine that has no place in standing up to our SSgt.

As far as his issues at home I know he did express that his wife was cheating and that he had found proof.

I am sad, upset and angry that this has happened. He was an outstanding Marine and he deserved alot better.

To find out that the children that you raised for years, that you loved and provided for are not yours is enough to make any man loose it.

I pray for the children like Fellow Female Marine and Fellow Marine. I do not pray for the wife by any means. It was her doing that took him away from us.

R.I.P Sgt Martinez
Comment Profile ImageFriend
Comment #72
She is a friend known her since Middle School and she loved her family and We are not HEAR TO JUDGE we need to pray for the mother and that she gets well Please stop with this stupid negative comments because no one knows what went out so stop making assumptions!!!
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Comment #73
To the people who are saying that she was unfaithful and that his children were not in fact his, if you knew so much about what was happening, why didn't you step in to help? You can go further up the chain than a staff sergeant. Why are you saying what should be private information on the internet, trying to get everyone who reads these comments to hate her? Were you intimately involved with him? Maybe this is all your fault. The family who is actually having to deal with the repurcussions of all this is in my thoughts. I hope that his wife pulls through all of this and can raise her children.
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Comment #74
Any word on how Mommy is doing?
Comment Profile ImageFriend
Comment #75
To the Person who thinks they now the truth, The Truth (10:54 am Thu, Oct 30th 08). You need to get your facts straight before you right crap or open your mouth. It is not your place to insinuate that the twins were not his. The fact is if they were not his, why would he want his family to keep them. You all just need to get a life, and stop getting into others lives and talking crap you have no idea about. You all were not their when they BOTH made those boys out of love. You need to find something else to do with your time, instead of telling lies. THE TRUTH, you do not know the truth, you are just talking out of the wrong end. People get things in their head and they believe them to be true, but may not be. And as a matter of fact, if it had been the other way around and she had attempted to kill him, because she THOUGHT he was cheating, would that have been right. “NO” No one knows why he did what he did, but we can not change the fact that all of it was WRONGE regardless of who he was or what was going on in his life. We all just need to pray that everything goes well, and those two little innocent boys are taken care of !!!!
Comment Profile ImageNiece
Comment #76
I want to personally thank everyone for there prayers. Your prayers are greatly appreciated.The negative things that people have said don't hurt as much as what are family is going through right now. Our hearts go out to Bobby and his family in this time grieving. My aunt is responsive a bit more as the days go by. The strenght that our family has taught her and giving her is helping her throught the long road of her recovery. We will pull through this! We will be there for each other, cause we have the "Gonzalez Blood" running through our veins. My twin cousins will grow up to remember there father as that "Steller Marine". And they will have there mom there to show them the strenght that they need.

To: La Familia
I pray that God watches over our tia. These are the time where we know how to come together and to get through this. Love you all! May God Bless You!
Comment Profile ImageMichelle and Sheila
Comment #77
We are two women that have been reading the comments and we strongly agree with the female cousin of the victom and feel that no one has the right to judge and take it upon themselves to put someone else's life in their hands. That is for God to decide. Infedelity is no reason for domestic violance. We feel it may help our soldiers if the military would take the time to debrief them before they come back home to their families. Our prayers are with the Family.
Comment Profile ImageThank You Niece
Comment #78
Niece,
THANK YOU for the update.

Many, many of us are praying for your aunt and little cousins as well as your whole family. We are praying for all good things for them. Thank goodness it sounds like you have a wonderful family that will love and support your aunt and cousins through all of this. ~May many Blessings come to your family~
Comment Profile Imageangry mom in fallbrook
Comment #79
None of you people are God, and should not be judging this Marine and his wife. Their poor little children, Sometimes things happen that no one can explain. Even you female fellow Marine what if there were rumors about you having an affair with this srgt , I'm sure you would not feel good about that. You should respect the mourning family members and their privacy during this tragic time and stop trying to air peoples dirty laundry if that may be the case. To the family members may God bless you during your sad time.
Comment Profile ImageResident
Comment #80
Im so sorry for the lost of the little boys dad and hope that the mom gets though this for the to little boys. Hopefuly she did not cheat because we all know what this could do to a person exspeacially if he did find out that the boys were not his and maybe if you were the one who was with him if that is the case then that needs to be said so they can put an end to this all. Fallbrook is getting pretty scarey and its getting to were you cant trust anyone here in this little town neither.
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Comment Profile Imagefallbrook neighbor
Comment #81
Thank you for the update, Niece. Go "Gonzalez Blood!" Let's remember how admired the Amish were after they reached out to the widow of the man who murdered 5 Amish school girls and critically wounded 5 more. You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_school_shooting

Best, Neighbor
Comment Profile ImageGR
Comment #82
Shame on the Village News. You had the responsibility to approve or not approve comments on your page for the "common good". By allowing "Fellow Marine" comment to be published, you showed your lack of compassion for the families involved with this tragedy. Twenty-four hours had just passed when the first of "Fellow Marine" comments were published. Let these families take time to grief. They don't need this extra stress. Show us your heart, your compassion, and your humanity; stop publishing these negative and hurtful comments. Don't give me freedom of the press. You have to draw the line on what right and wrong. Now, can you step-up to the plate and do the right thing?
Comment Profile Imagefriend
Comment #83
I have known both of them my whole life, and am very saddened by this tragedy. I don't understand how anyone at this time can focus on those things that no longer matter, what matters here is that he is no longer with us, she is fighting for her life and those beautiful boys are going to have to life their life without the father that loved them so much. you are in my prayers friend
Comment Profile ImageRichard Mooren
Comment #84
Well, just to let a few people on here know, if the cause of death is suicide, the family isn't entitled to the life insurance money. What happened is horrible. On the issue of fidelity, I just want to say that fidelity is a perspective; my wife cheats on me all the time, but I'm okay with it because it's me she comes home to at the end of the night. It's just that, as one person, I can't fill all of her needs, but I have enough self-confidence to accept that.
I'll keep you all in my thoughts. Go Obama!
Comment Profile Imagefriend
Comment #85
I have been reading all the comments that you have blogged and I too know this family I know that when they were together that they made each other very happy and that they loved their boys more than anything in the world. To those who say that they know the truth that they over heard. Fact none of us were in that house no one knows what straw broke the camel’s back all I know is that two boys are now without a FATHER yes he was a Marine but he will always be a FATHER and the only one who has answers will wake up ask for her husband and her children and discover her life is upside down. So for you who likes to eavesdrop my husband has also accused me of cheating but I never did yes I have male friends just like my husband has female friends, but we lost the communication and we needed to get it back have you ever thought that is what happened he is thinking one way she is thinking the other and no one is talking to each other. Now again for those who know the truth or think they do out of respect for your friend’s family please keep your comments to yourself. His family is going through enough grief then to be reading all of this and if you think they aren’t, think again. They need to focus on all the good not all the bad. If you have no respect for her that is fine and you don't want to pray for her, ok, but why blog that ,why stir up more, pray for his sons and yes they are his Fact they had to run test to see if it was a genetic disorder that caused the special needs so they are 99.9% his. Pray for them. for the Marine who stated the false lies on 10:54 am Thu, Oct 30th 08 you need to stop I know this is hard for you to understand but you seem like a simple minded person you were not there and Sgt Martinez was not directly talking to you when you heard your so called truths so please stop reporting what you know nothing about. In addition to the person who called his wife a B***** please tell me what woman isn't. I know I can be to my husband and in return he can be an A***** and maybe not everyone sees that side because they are not always around to see the good times and the bad so if you have not seen them together in the good times and bad then you should not blog about what you do not know yes it maybe your opinion but you know what they say about that….. The fact is there are two sides to every story and unless you know both sides then you can comment but the thing is weather you worked with him or not you know that He would not want all his laundry out there for the world to read that is not HIM and if you know him so well you would have known that.
I am praying for the whole family and for my dear friends my God be with you.
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Comment #86
may god bless you and your family
i am praying day by day
i am no one to judge or comment.
i am just reaching out to the family and her.
i am here praying for her.and her family my god be with you in this time
i am sure with her strenght of her family being there hope to god will give her strenght her boys need her god
be with her i am praying and praying!
Comment Profile ImageFallbrook Resident
Comment #87
I understand that our country has freedom of speech but is it really necessary for the Village News to be posting comments that may or may not be true? Yes they are the reader's comments but the newspaper has a responsibility to report misleading information. What has our country come to that a family must struggle with heartbreaking news while reading "trash" about their family online. I feel we need to end this and pray for all the parties involved in this horrible tragedy. To the family- You are all in my thoughts and prayers.
Comment Profile Imagefriend
Comment #88
First of all, i want to send my thoughts n prayers to both of the families, may god give you the strenght you need to overcome this tragedy. pls keep me posted. I used to work with Mrs. Martinez, i would like to go visit her. i'm glad the chlidren are safe with family relatives.


Secondly, for all those honorable fellow marines, and civilians, please keep in mind, you are bad mouthing an individual, who is UNCONTIOUS, is FIGHTING for her live, in CRITICAL CONDITIOn, n in PAIN, from all the TRAUMA to the head. Out of respect of human kind, pls stop your unappropriate comments, it is not the time n place (internet forum), to discuss such devastation.
Comment Profile Imagepraying for everyone involved
Comment #89
This is to "The Truth" do you realize that what you are doing is causing trouble for his SSgt? If what you say is the truth then it is the SSgt.s fault along with everyone that worked along side of him that knew what was going on. I find it very hard to believe that any man will let anyone laugh in his face because his wife was cheating. Sorry sounds like a load of crap to me! I hope it is an investigation involving the SSgt because someone should have done something other than laugh it off!!! I am praying for everyone, the kids need their mother!!!
Comment Profile ImageMy Friend
Comment #90
Pray with me,
Lord Jesus, i come to you face down, humbled by your power and glory. you know the hearts of men, please dear Lord, I am begging you, heal her wounds, 100% recovery dear God. Father stop this storm of emotions on the internet, bring together the families for you have that power to do so.
Those that chose to vomit their emotions on this discussion board and stir up hatred and lies in these families minds, i ask dear Lord that you will put a stop to it. Calm the storm, draw them to You now dear Lord through the power of your Holy Spirit may all who are touched by this horrible situation find peace through You Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In Jesus Name, Amen
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Comment #91
I would like to say a huge GREAT JOB! to those 2 Marine's who did the welfare check. You may have saved this young Mother's life. You must have been good friends to the Marine and his family. You should be proud of yourselves in having a helping hand to your fellow Marine family. My husband is a Marine and I honor and respect him and respect you two also for never leaving one of your "Brother's." You two are outstanding Americans!
Comment Profile Imageformer woman marine/fallbrook resident
Comment #92
i am going to take another view on this. could this marine be so stellar that after less than 8 hours of not coming to work TWO marines show up at the home? It would tend me to believe this marine showed problems leading up to this and NO ONE did anything!
Another point i will bring up, as a military personnel after bludgeoned his wife to what he thought was death, what a cowards way out to choose suicide. Being an NCO, he knows this would leve his family penniless, but he also knew he would be facing not only SEVERE punishment in the San Diego Superior courts but also facing a COURT MARTIAL, Marines as well as a DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE don't view wifebeaters as heroes...so yep, he took the fastest, quickest cowardly way out...leaving his two precious boys with nothing!
Another point i have to make, to fellow marine who has taken upon herself to gossip his private life in the press/internet. did you do two tours in iraq with him? if so and the other fellow woman marine that found him so soft spoken, then you must have had a personal (NOT SEXUAL) relationship with him. that is far more than a young mother faced with TWO special needs children is left with. she does not have that luxury of having a companion of the opposite sex to bs with thoroughout the day! how dare you judge her!
and the one who overheard a counseling session with this marine and his snco...i am outraged you would even say anything of that conversation. why were you so interested that you eavesdrop? were you in a relationship with him?
this whole thing disgusts me. many many marines have come home after serving frontline in this iraq war and not acted so maliciously, stop giving this marine a justifiable cause to be so wrong!
his actions were not of a marine.
I am hoping that the final conclusion will be him dishonorably discharged from the marine corps(which will null all financial benefits and his wife to fully recover and repiece her life as well as she can for the sake of her boys.
The Marine Corps/ my tax paying dollars isn't going to bury this guy is it?
Comment Profile ImageThe truth
Comment #93
It seems that I have upset a few people. It is not okay for you to blast my Sgt either. He was there for me when I was in serious trouble. I had just gotten out of the brig and I needed some guidance to help me get back on the right track. He was the one that helped me the most. Now I am back on the right track and owe it all to him.

As far as why was I listening. If you worked in our shop you would know that the SSgt is not one to keep his mouth closed or to speak softly about anything. He makes jokes out of everything.

I am still praying for the two boys and I hope that they will be great men like their father was. After speaking to my preacher I understand that I am angry because of my loss. I worked side by side with this man everyday and I just don't understand. I am praying for her that she pulls through, but don't drag his name threw the mud when you know nothing of him.

Look at the command and ask why.........
Comment Profile Imageformer woman marine/fallbrook resident
Comment #94
to Niece:
I also urge you, Gonzalez family to contact Sgt. Martinez's former command immediately. make them aware of this Woman marine that is being disrespectful towards your aunt (deflamation of character) they will make it stop, if not you can always file a civil action or let the OIC know you will do this...i guarantee to keep it out of the press.(ironic, huh?) they will make her think twice about interfering with a criminal investigation.
Comment Profile ImageJennifer/Niece
Comment #95
To all that are praying for my aunt, uncle and the boys I thank you so much. My aunt is everyday pulling for her life and she may not recover 100% from this ordeal, physically or mentially. The actions that my uncle has taken into his own hands is without doubt questionable. But who are any of us to judge him or her for there actions. No one knew of the problems that they may or may not have had therefore the accusations on both parts needs to stop. It isn't going to bring him back. All this negativity is getting no where and all we as a family can do is think positive about both of there lives and how they loved each other and the boys. I just want to express a couple of things that are a FACT and would like to share with everyone.


The fact is that the Marines said they would help my aunt and her boys with what lies ahead and the care that they would need but now they aren't. They say one thing and then they change there mind. Now my cousins and aunt have no dime to there name. They are left with NOTHING and i mean NOTHING. They no longer have a father or husband. My aunt spent years by Bobby's side and this is what she has to show for it. Just 2 loving little kids that are autistic. We as a family are having to pick up the pieces and help her and her boys which we have no trouble with, but the care that those boys and her are going to need finacially and emotional help as well. I am a tax payer as well as everyone in this great country and it seems that this great country should step up and take a little responsibility of the actions of there military personel. I know some would disagree with me and hope she gets nothing and you right she gets nothing. But what did those two boys do???? They are the ones that have to live the rest of there life knowing that their dad served this country and that this country is not helping with there needs at all. My aunt her sister left everything behind to go to her sisters side and be with her and to get custody of the boys. That is what families do, when someone is in need they drop everthing to help them just as we are all doing. "The Gonzalez Family" My aunt has one more week left that the military is paying for a hotel room for her and her mom and then after that that is it. No more help for my aunt (that is fighting every single minute for the sake of the boys) or her boys. Whats left to do as citizens of this country. Just to pray that somehow they will get the help that they need without any of us going broke at the same time. We are sending any money that we can to help them but in the long run they will need more then what we can offer. Know again to the Marines reading this I apologize if I offend you in any way but I just speak the truth. You think Sgt. Maritnez would of wanted this for his family to leave them with nothing. I think not!!! He was better than that. If you would like to contact me personally and express your feelings please feel free to at jennifer_krodriguez00@yahoo.com

I would appreciate it very much if you have any ahrd feelings and wish to express those bad negative thoughts please keep to yourself. Thanks!!!!
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Comment #96
Jennifer love, I do not know you, but you seem like a loving and wonderful girl. Please do not take what these people are saying about your loved ones with a grain of salt. What is done is done. Knowone should take how you feel about your family away from you. Please stop reading all of these people's comments. It can be obsessive and do no good for you. It's all a waste of your thoughts and energy. People will form opinions about your family and bash them. You know how they really are. It seems you are just trying to defend your family. You have my heartfelt emotions for you and you seem to be doing extremely strong for your family. Good job, but it seems also that it is many against you and it is not a fight that needs to be won. You keep supporting your family and ignore other's opinions. My family is constantly sending good thoughts your way and stay strong! xo
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Comment #97
Sgt Martinez did not think about his kids as anyone knows that your family left behind gets nothing if you kill yourself. And what a coward he was. How could he care about his family by trying to kill his wife then himself. Yes we feel sorry for the boys but she will be able to get Social Security benifits for the boys.
Comment Profile ImageMike Coughran
Comment #98
Someone wrote "How could this happen in our little town".

I was born and grew up there. I've spent 17 years in the Army.

This is not new. It was the same during Vietnam. Only worse. Men snapped, wives were beaten, the neighborhood listened. The military usually handles this stuff much better these days.
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Comment #99
This is a sad time indeed. My heart is with people and people are in my heart, as Carlos Santana would say. I pray for these things and hope we can come as one in togetherness thank you.
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Comment #100
reading thru this crap makes me think that the majority of these people (who never even knew the family!) are trying to place blame where it never belonged. i know some of the family here in the rgv and they know a lot more about the "infidelity" you so casually throw around as an excuse for murder, suicide, and demolishing an entire family's sense of security & balance. it also seems that in a roundabout way some people are trying to place blame on two innocent children who never asked for any of this. just because they were special needs children and probably did add stress to an already volatile situation doesn't mean that they need to feel responsible for their fathers actions later in life. if this marine, his wife, or their family could not handle that responsibility, many couples in the world would die to adopt a special needs child. myself included, because i think autism is a beautiful "condition" that gives you unconditional, open love from your child. there was absolutely no reason or excuse that any person can give me that would justify this situation. this marine was too much of a coward to face his own demons. he thought only of himself. as a christian i have to pray for his soul, knowing that suicide is an unforgivable sin in gods eyes. i pray for her physical recovery, knowing full well that she will forever be traumatized, & will have to deal with her sons trauma to boot. i think the family of the wife and children need more support and less judgement from the hypocrites.
Comment Profile ImageA relative
Comment #101
I can't believe that ppl think that money in someones pocket is the issue right now. There is 2 lil boys involved right now without a father and a mother in the hospital. They are going to need all the support that they can get. And as for "FELLOW MARINE" watch what u wish for cause CARMA is an ugly thing. There is only 1 person that can juge and we are not GOD himself. So please let both families grive in peace!!!
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Comment #102
To fellow marine, we will soon meet, hope ur doing fine...how do you like your coffee...I am going to starbucks.....
Comment Profile ImageSaddenedMarineWife...
Comment #103
All of this is sad and discouraging. Some of you are like animals. No matter the situation at hand NO,ONE has the right to attempt to or take anothers life, NO matter the situation or the accusations in a marriage or relationship. Life is strange and we never know what it is going to hand us. I pray for the hardened hearts that they never have to endure any sort of a trauma in there life due to the pain they are inflicting on other families in a time of loss. Unfortunately the things we send into others lives tend to come back and haunt us later on in life. That is just malicious to of said the things some of you have said. No matter what you think you may know, you never know the whole story, you only know what you hear from one side. You don't live inside there walls. Your mouths should be chastized for the slanderous comments you make. Isn't there a code of honor in the Corp? I don't think that your Sgt would appreciate the gossip you spread around no matter what you know or think you know. If you cared so much for your Sgt you would keep your savage like comments to yourself. Even if he was angry for any of this he still loved his wife or he would of just walked away. Pain in the heart is a mystery, and passion can fuel horrible results. You should be broken inside and feeling shame for what you post for the world to see. It's technically none of your business what was going on inside of his home for you to stick your ears to the wall so you could have some shread of what was troubling him. If you were so upset about what has happened in his life you would not honor his memory like this. Shame on you all whom have posted such vile comments. Your tongue is like a double edged sword and you only hurt people that do not deserve to hurt, they are hurting more than you know and you just shove the knife in. I am sure his family reads this as well. We should pray for all whom are suffering from this tragedy and it is a tragedy. Pray for them to be covered in the love of God and for him to carry them through this crisis. All whom are hurting and we should also pray for the ones whom slander the victims, ALL of the VICTIMS. Everyone is hurting in this situation. God rest his soul, and I pray for the complete healing of his wife.
Comment Profile ImageConcerned Neighbor
Comment #104
Jennifer & Family,

Remember SGT Martinez served his country and there are plenty of people in this world who still see him as a HERO who voluntarily risked his life so we could live in freedom! I am so sorry for both families. Please remember there are MANY organizations out there to help your families financially. The Semper Fi Foundation is an organization that was started here in O'side and gives assistance to ANY Marine who is injured or in a serious condition. It doesn't matter where or why it happened, they just want to help those Marines who have risked their lives for us. They also assist families too. Both of your families should check into help out their for all of you. You can search on the internet for these groups because there are plenty and all you have to do is ask. REMEMBER, despite what has happened, SGT Martinez served his country and he earned the assistance from ALL of these groups, HE EARNED IT FOR ALL OF YOU!!!!
Comment Profile ImageSpellcheck
Comment #105
I hate to be a buzz kill, but why can't anyone spell?
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Comment #106
disgusting the way everyone writes things about the dead or injured have respect...
Comment Profile ImageTakahashi
Comment #107
I feel sorry for the Marine that Died. I remember when I was a soldier in the early 1940's and although I was in my homeland, I was glad that the war was over. I hold no ill feelings for service people no matter what side they are on. My only hope is that they rest in peace.
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Comment #108
I read the first few comments about this tragedy, browsed through the rest of them, and it seems to me that everyone's missing the bigger picture. Whether it was infidelity on his or her part, who knows, who cares. What's done is done. The facts, are that there are now two boys who are without a father, and they will probably never be the same as other boys who won't ever experience this. Same for the widow too, but life will go on. What is important though, is that a thousand US soldiers who've been to Iraq before, commit suicide every month in the US. Think about that, as far as how many more families are and will be crippled by this. This single incident here in Fallbrook is just one of many. So I what I think the people need to do, instead of asking whose fault it was; or blurting out god bless and lets pray for the family or semper fi, is ask themselves why is this happening? To me what I find interesting is that the unfortunate people who do commit suicide here in the states, and who haven't been to war, is that they usually give off subtle signs to their friends and family for some time, as if their waiting for someone or something to stop them, before they actually do the deed. Soldiers on the other hand come home and just do it, no signs or anything to their families and friends, why?
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Comment #109
My prayers go out to both families, this is such a terrible loss, and a devastating occurrance for them. My main concerns are the children, and I hope that they and their mother will be OK. None of you people writing terrible things about the husband or the wife should be doing so, it is not your place or concern, no one is perfect, the evidence is in some of the words I see written here for all to see. Those of you who have been writing these disturbing comments should be ashamed for your words and judgements, it is not your place in any way, shape or form.
Comment Profile ImagePraying
Comment #110
Any word on how she is doing? And the twins as well!
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Comment #111
Well the only thing that i can comment on is the boys. They are doing great. Asking for there mother talking and calling there aunt mommy, seeing that she reminds them of her....
Comment Profile ImageNavy Wife
Comment #112
Wow...I just read about this tragic death. My prayers go out to both his and her family.

It outrages me to see that other people are so easy to jump into conclusionS about infidelity. If you don't know them personally, you shouldn't be talking so much trash about this woman who was almost beaten to death. No one, other than their close family and friends trully know what was going on in their personal life.

"Fellow Marine" must of gotten cheaten on for saying the worst comments. He shouldn't judge other people for the experiences he's had.

I've been married to my husband for 4 years and been together for 8 years. He has been deployed to both Afghanistan and Iraq. I never thought of being unfaithful. There are many military wives who don't cheat and focus on only their family and work.

SO "FORMER MARINE" YOU NEED TO GET A REALITY CHECK AND STOP SPILLING SO MUCH NEGITIVITY!!!

Our prayes go out to their family and children.
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Comment #113
To the Relative,
I am so glad that the boys are doing so well. We are all praying for them here in Texas. Please tell the Aunt that there are no words good enough to describe what she is doing for those boys. God will bless her in so many ways and he may be doing that right now by giving her the ability, the love, the caring and the patience to take care of all she is doing for her family. Not many people would be able to just drop everything to help with a family member and not even think twice about it. Taking care of special needs children is a challenge and it sounds like she is handling them well. She is an amazing woman. We should all be so blessed to have someone like her in our lives. We should all say a little extra prayer for her and for all she is doing.
Comment Profile ImageJC Pena
Comment #114
My Prayers and support go out to the family. i may not be close to the famlily but i am close to a member. and i will be praying for the children and close family. my love and support along with my prayers go out to you all.
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Comment #115
Sgt. Martinez was a casualty of War. He brought it back with him. Marley is about the only person that has brought this comment up and he is right.
My belated condolescence to the families.
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Comment #116
Our prayers are with the families. God Bless You...
Comment Profile ImageFELLOW MARINE-- READ THIS!
Comment #117
Fellow Marine/TRUTH or whichever you decide to call yourself. You need to STOP! That is not an option, but rather an ORDER, of which any stellar Marine would know to obey. As you can see from the comments above by your fellow Marines, you are an embarrasment. You put to shame what so many Marines work so hard for. That might explain why you were in the brig. Give this famliy the respect any American good or bad deserves. Give the Marine wives the respect they deserve. Who are you to speak on behalf of something you've never experienced first hand. Stand down Marine... seriously!!! Honor your Corps and let the police and the REAL Marines do the investigating.

Oohrah!
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Comment #118
To "The truth" and "Fellow Marine"

Thank you, I was under the impression that this tragedy was due to the pressures of war and maybe PTSD. But with your input, I now know he was just a weak troubled person, nothing else, who took out his frustrations on his wife, and then took the easy way out for himself.

Thanks again for your insight, well done.

PS, my cheating ex is alive and well.
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Comment #119
god blees u gril?& your lil boys too my prayers go to you and your boys
Comment Profile ImageSincere Marine Wife
Comment #120
This is really giving the Marine Corps and all the good Marines out there a big black eye. No one needs to spectate on what they think happened nor do they need to share private information that went on with this family. I understand the "band of brothers" attitude and the feeling that you need to be on the defense of your fellow Marine. Please respect the familys wishes and stop speaking about this. I am appaled by what has been said about Marine wives. I know that there are some out there that are unfaithful but even the worst situation doe's not deserve death. So sad. I wish the family well.
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Comment #121
any word on the mom?
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Comment #122
How is the mom doing?
Comment Profile ImageA Friend
Comment #123
She is doing ok; she is actually having a surgical procedure done today to reconstruct some of her cranium (skull). Please pray for her, as she has many more surgeries to come. Thank you for all your prayers!
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Comment #124
to family ?do you guys now how she did on the surgical procedure?
Comment Profile ImageNOT TO FOND OF THIS GIRL
Comment #125
I personally think that Sgt. Martinez was a good stellar marine and served his country proudly. He loved his kids dearly and his wife until she did what she did......People that know her must know the truth of the way she really was. So with that in mind, She in fact was the one whom messed up this mans life. You ask me she deserved what she got coming to her and my fellow friend should have been the one to live for today....!! And I really hope that she gets no monetary contribution from any source because she doesnt deserve a penny of it.
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Comment #126
FACT: SHE WAS A CHEATER
FACT: MAYBE SHE LEARNED HER LESSON!!

MISS YOU BOBBY
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Comment #127
BOBBY YOU WILL BE DEARLY MISSED. AS FOR HER THOSE 500 gs should reconstruct her underserving face!!
Comment Profile ImageA Wizard
Comment #128
I do not know if there was any infidelity, nor have I ever met this Marine, but I work with alot of Marines like him, that have been deployed and have returned with PTSD or components of it. There is no way around it, you cannot deploy to a war zone and not come back changed in some way. Why he did what he did, only he and his wife know that, due to the type of injury she has, she may not even remember the incident. I hope that if any other Marines are in the same situation, they come forward and seek help.
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Comment #129
i understand she went thru the surgery well but there is another complication at the moment. Please keep her and the rest of her family in your prayers. They have a long uphill battle ahead of them.
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Comment #130 | Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
I didn't know any of these people, but come on, do you really wish hurt upon her and her children? That is aweful that you would say that. You can think whatever you want, but you really need to keep it to yourself. Those are aweful things to write when you know her family reads this. No matter what she did or didn't do, knowone deservers what she got. When emotions arise things are done and said that may be hurtful, but that doesn't make any of it right. I understand he was your friend and you care deeply for him, but he must have loved her, he shared his life with her. Do you really think he would be okay with you wanting her to be hurt?
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Comment #131 | Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:54 am
Infidelitiy should not lead to murder.

ONLY THE WEAK MINDED WOULD COMMIT SUCH ATROCITY.The strong minded people would overcome this situation and work through it for their children and family.

A COWARD KILLS HIMSELF...A BRAVE PERSON WOULD WORK THINGS OUT LIKE A MAN AND MOST OF ALL A RESPECTABLE MARINE WOULD!!!!!
Comment Profile ImageStop the Crap
Comment #132 | Thursday, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:16 pm
To: NOT TO FOND OF THIS GIRL
You all need to stop talking crap, if you do not know. He didn't even give her a chance to defend herself. She was asleep. That is a coward, why didn't he do it when she could defend herself. Now she is fighting for her life, not knowing what is going on. All you should be doing is praying that her boys have a chance to have one parent growing up. God help her get threw this !
Comment Profile ImageMeFirst
Comment #133 | Friday, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Look fellow Marine:

I love how you talk about the wives being cheaters and what not, but as a wife of a Marine I didn't see too many Marines that were respectful of their commitment to their wives while I visited him on base. The countless times I went out with my husband (then my BF) and his buddies when they brought someone back to base, it wasn't their wife!!

My point is that you can sit here and bitch and moan about Marine wives are this and that, but maybe you should correct some of your fellow Marines on THEIR behavior. Just because you're wife is miles away and you're "defending your Country" doesn't give them the right to stick it in where ever they like.

If infidelity played a part in this, it still does not justify HIS actions. He had NO RIGHT to do this to the mother of his children. If you justify his actions, you are a waste of space.
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Comment #134 | Monday, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:32 am
As you all know I have been writing things that I think need to be said at times as well as my other family. We are hurt that fellow marines would wish this kind of thing on an INNOCENT person as my aunt. You have ao much hatred in your heart and do you know the repercussions of those thoughts. That God himself will punish you for those ill thought on another person and not only that Karma always come back ten fold and bites you in the a**. Never forget. And to all that say that she was unfaithful. You so have the story wrong it was the other way around and believe me when my aunt fully recovers and she will the story WILL BE TOLD how it should be with the truth no hear say. I feel for everyone that has said thouse ill begotten things of my aunt and we as a family forgive you....You know not what you do to yourself.....God Bless
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Comment #135 | Wednesday, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:39 pm
too fam. do you guys now who mom&the boys are doing??????
Comment Profile ImageSPELL CHECK
Comment #136 | Friday, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Please read your comments and correct any errors before submitting. I'm getting a headache (no pun intended). Stay in school. It may help.
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Comment #137 | Saturday, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Hello Everyone,

If anybody would like to donate food, clothes, or make a monetary donation, please contact me at nicknmari@att.net Pls keep the mom in your prayers.
Comment Profile ImageAquantance
Comment #138 | Tuesday, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:57 am
God Bless this Family! You all are in my prayers.
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Comment #139 | Monday, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:15 am
Sitting here watching it snow in Colorado, my mind kept thinking of the wonderful climate in Fallbrook. I was wondering why I moved away from there. All these mean bitter comments on the loss of a life and injuries to another served to remind me of the community of small minded, hurtful people who live there. May God forgive them.
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Comment #140 | Sunday, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:08 pm
I hope you all had as good of a Chrismas as possible. DId the boys get enough presents? I still think of you all, including the neice, and Mommy. Mommy, I hope you are not hurting. Neice I hope you are not stressed. Hang in there
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Comment #141 | Friday, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:27 am
Hows the fam? How's mom doing? Is she still in the hospital?
Comment Profile Imageresident
Comment #142 | Saturday, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:18 pm
how is the mom and boys doing? i hope that someone could let everyone know how see is doing? is she still in the hospital or did she get out, if so what hospital is she in. hope family is doing o.k. please write back so we all know whats going on.
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Comment #143 | Monday, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:59 am
just wanted to let everyone...they are doing great considering all that has happened!!! thanks for all the prayers!!!
Comment Profile ImageMike
Comment #144 | Sunday, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Good news that they are recovering.

I was shocked recently when I heard that a close friend committed suicide, I could not believe he would ever do something like that. Then I happened to see a documentary about the relationship between adult and teen suicides and the prescription drugs they were taking for ADD, depression and social anxieties disorders. it was then that I remember the last conversation we had, he was telling me that he didn't like how a certain drug prescribed by his doctor made him feel. Well then just don't take it, I said, off handedly and he replied that he had tried skipping doses but it gave him bad or crazy thoughts. Seeing it was more serious than I thought, I suggested he ask his doctor to wean him off of it and not to try it alone again. One month later he was gone.
As a Viet Nam vet I am aware of of all the mercury in the many vaccines we are injected with before going overseas, not to mention the toxic chemicals from the weapons we used and more so during the Gulf war and the current wars. I can't help but feel that this could very well be a reason for the stagering number of suicides during and after military duty these days.

For anyone out there contemplating suicide, please realize that it is the chemical toxins in your blood talking, not you, you are just the observer. There are many ways to to get rid of heavy metals and other toxins in your system, take the time and do the research.
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Comment #145 | Sunday, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:06 pm
i knew 2 couples where the wife cheated on them and the story ended up the same as this one. a woman is a man's pride and a man is a woman's heart. man breaks woman's heart, she moves on (in most cases), woman takes away man's pride, he'll do anything. not say that i agree on whatever that just happened. good luck to the wife and RIP Marine.
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Comment #146 | Monday, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:42 pm
its been like 4 month ????? whats going on with mommy did she make it family i think u guys shoud let us now we all prayed 4 her it would be nice to her something
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Comment #147 | Monday, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:26 am
Everyone is fine...mom did make it and has a long rode to recovery but is doing well.... thanks for all the prayers....everyone is back in Texas with family..again thanks for all the support and prayers!!!!
Comment Profile ImageVOICE OF ACCOUNTABILITY
Comment #148 | Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:26 pm
TO SPELL CHECKER: NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP! BRAVO, CHEERS AND GREETINGS!!!
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Comment #149 | Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:26 pm
TO: "FELLOW MARINE/AND OR FELLOW FEMALE MARINE: Your decision to place your comments in any public forum is deeply regrettable. I am confused and shaken by your lack of judgment and call you into account for the harm you have knowingly inflicted on this family. Your comments are equally as tragic as the events themsevles. My most sincere hope that you will find forgiveness from the survivors of this event and from every person who is as saddened by your response as I am. I offer you my most hearfelt concern and the hope that you will come to understand the consequences of your actions. We all suffer the burden of human frailty. My deepest sympathies are with you, as it is apparent your burden is so very heavy.
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Comment Profile ImageTHE VOICE OF ACCOUNTABILITY
Comment #150 | Saturday, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:26 pm
TO THE VILLAGE NEWS: YOUR DECISION TO PRINT THE COMMENTS OF "FELLOW MARINE" IS INEXCUSABLE. I submit this comment with great interest as to whether or not you will approve IT for publication. IF YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN ME CONCERNING YOUR DECISION TO APPROVE THE COMMENTS OF "FELLOW MARINE", I INVITE YOU TO RESPOND IN TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION. RESPECTFULLY, VOICE OF ACCOUNTABILITY
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Comment #151 | Thursday, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:40 am
My brother served in Vietnam. His wife cheated on him and he endured horrible things there which he never spoke. Only when she asked for a divorce, 22 years later, he succumbed to his depression and commited suicide. Some succumb sooner than others I think. Some just never can straighten out their heads after something of that magnitude and horror. Some just cannot find answers in counselors. It is just complete uncomprehensible.
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Comment #152 | Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 10:22 am
I'm on my way!!! The military is hiring me to help with the problems you are mentioning. I can do nothing to erase this loss...but will do my best to prevent future events. Come to the hospital if you are having problems coping...I will help. Don't wait until it is too late.
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Comment #153 | Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:02 pm
A well formed marital relationship should be formed with essential vocel communication. My wife had done the same thing while I was in iraq. Looking back on it maybe we got married too quickly and didn't think twice. I didn't resort to the same measures as sgt martines although yes I did feel like doing the same thing but we now have a son and a family life to think about. Yes it comes up from time to time and I get really pissed but its all about communication. Its nobodys place to junde this family that's up to god but we can pray that it will work out the way god intends. Semper fi.
Comment Profile Imagex-wife of a Marine
Comment #154 | Monday, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:53 am
All I can say to "Truth".....if you were in the Brig then you are definitely not one to even comment on this topic!!! Thank the good Lord I am out of that gossip seeking environment!!!
Comment Profile Imagevicki
Comment #155 | Sunday, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:14 am
To: Richard Mooren,
I feel sorry for you, if its okay with you your wife cheats on you and you say your okay with it. Do you have any self respect for yourself, what if she gets aids are you still going to be okay with it????? I pray for the Mother and those poor twins, marine or not no-one has the right to beat or touch another. And what on earth does Obama have to do with this?? He NEVER SERVED OUR COUNTRY and has done nothing but put all Americans further in debt. To the niece and her family God Bless you and keep you safe. You are in my prayer and thoughts always. r. mooren you are aridiculous.
Comment Profile ImageTammy
Comment #156 | Friday, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:44 am
I was attracted to this article via google because I feel as if I am going through a situation that may lead to my (soon to be exes) suicide. My ex was similar to what people are describing of this marine, keyword..WAS! PRE IRAQ! He was kind, rational, gentle, giving, loving, caring, forgiving and understanding. We were married 8 years, he remained the same person for 6 of those years. He progressively CHANGED his personality years after his deployment. And I WAS a good wife to him, I fought for him to get help before he was thrown off recruiting duty months before we separated. His command's answer to his issues? Transfer him! I contacted the chaplain, the IG, even the Marine corp headquarters. By the time Marine HQ got involved, he was transferred to another unit in another state and the former command wiped their hands of him and the IG closed the investigation on that command. I brought HELL on that command to get my husband help and they attempted to shove it under the rug. They SAW he was getting progressively worse! Complaints from the high schools he was act concerning young girls, NUMEROUS accidents in government vehicles, which put him more in debt! Reckless behavior! They SAW it, and their answer? TRANSFER! All because he "said" he was fine and wasn't suicidal. I lived with that man, i knew him in and out. My husband began to feel threatened concerning life. ALL OF A SUDDEN, when it got really bad, he began to accuse me of INFIDELITY! He also accused his former command of "plotting" against him. EVERYONE was "out" to get him, even his mother! He began chain smoking like I have never seen before. There was such an uneasiness in our home that I began to sleep on the COUCH and got LITTLE sleep because I felt his anger and hate seeping from the other room. Point blank, he was a person who went from one extreme to another. Very NICE and kind to having a traumatic situation turn him to the opposite extreme, very MEAN and hateful. These are people who just needed a "push" when it came to them cracking. Actually, my husband USED to be one of those guys people would consider "too nice"

But definitely no more. He doesn't care about ANYONE, not even himself. He did so much stuff to me under the eyes of his former command, I am literally starting over from scratch in life. NOT to mention, watching my back from him. He sent me the most vicious email last night. Saying he hopes I DIE and that "No worries, he will be out of everyone's hair, soon" The email was FILLED with expletives and hate. This is the first I had HEARD from him in so long, and just out the blue..for nothing. I forwarded the email to my advocate so she can get it to his command. So don't you "fellow Marines" sit here and pretend it was all this woman's fault. NO ONE deserves to be beaten to death by a coward who's too prideful to get help when he knew his mental health was deteriorating. He chose the COWARDS way out. No matter HOW many decorations he had, no matter how good of a MARINE he was. What kind of PERSON, human being does what he did? Just like my husband, began a very impulsive, reckless lifestyle...refused help, lied about his condition. I COMMEND those Marines and soldiers who actually GET the help and admit to themselves they aren't right. THOSE are the leaders, THOSE are the true ones. Not the ones like this guy killing his wife and the other one in the middle east that murdered his fellow marines and then himself. NO, that was a COWARD. These "nice guys" begin to SNAP into mean, vile, evil people because they have no idea how to communicate or live life assertive. God hopes this woman survived and is doing better and the children are coping well.
Comment Profile ImageMARINE VETERAN
Comment #157 | Tuesday, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:12 am
Physical violence is never right. Regardless of the situation. These people should have sought helped, before it got out of hand. I was a former marine, who hit my wife, because I came back different from a tour in IRAQ. I was attached to an infantry unit. Long story short, I was MESSED up. My wife, stayed by my side. We constantly argued, and fought. Until I decided to get help, and she did too. All that trauma I caused her, wasn't good for her either. And let's just say our relationship now is a whole 360 degree better. People looking at us from the outside, would have never known, the crap we have put eachother thru. So let's jus say, if your not in their shoes, please don't comment. Don't be ignorant. It wasn't your life, so why are you worrying about it. All I can do, is offer this couple's family and friends, peace! That is what they deserve!
Comment Profile ImageBeen There
Comment #158 | Saturday, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:59 am
I was repeatedly phyically abused by my ex-husband who was an active duty Marine. After he tried to kill me the Marines refused to court martial him. I was lucky enough to get myself an my daughter away from him. Subsequently he tried to committ suicide several times, the Marines put him in inpatient treatment and labled him fit for duty. After he assulted 3 federal police officers and tried to kill his second wife the Marines finally decided to go after him. He committed suicide before the Corps could finish procesing his BCD paperwork. Unfortunatly in most cases the military turns a blind eye to domestic violence. I saw this happen to dozens women over the years. This violence will only stop when everyone acknowledges the problem and helps to fix it. God Bless those children and his wife.
Comment Profile ImageBeen There
Comment #159 | Monday, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 am
By the way my ex-husband had NEVER been deployed oversees. He had NEVER seen one second of combat or even come close to it.
Comment Profile Imageray ray
Comment #160 | Sunday, May 2, 2010 at 8:55 am
I went to the VA clinic the other day for a typical physical. I saw a young man there in the waiting room in uniform with one of the most angry expressions on his face that I have ever seen. All I got to say is dont fk with those guys coming home. I suspect that woman got just what she deserved.
Comment Profile ImageUSMC Wife
Comment #161 | Thursday, May 6, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Ray Ray your ignorance is showing! From your statement can we conclude that you are a wife beater too?

To whomever is approving these comments - glad to know that you condone ray ray's comments - otherwise why would you have approved them?

No man, woman or child should ever be beaten this way. Where was his command in all of this? Why did no one help him or his famiy before it was too late? I hope his wife recovered and their kids are okay.
Comment Profile Imagesome1 from the valley..
Comment #162 | Monday, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:03 am
How is she doing now?
Comment Profile Imageundocourb
Comment #163 | Wednesday, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:39 pm
c'mon folks, we can do better.. let's take back our title!
Comment Profile Imageleslie
Comment #164 | Tuesday, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:00 pm
if his parents hadn't been let in the U.S., this wouldn't have happened here.........
Comment Profile ImageMarine Wife
Comment #165 | Monday, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:18 am
God bless America help us all.
Comment Profile ImageRed
Comment #166 | Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:57 am
Many years ago, when I was a beautifull sassy young lady, I was corted by a very handsome young marine. But I couldn't get this out of my head "they are trained to kill". One has to be brained washed to excpet that being an okay thing to do. Needless to say, I didn't marry the man. But married a Navy man instead!!!
God Help Marines and all of us. I do hope the wife and child will be alright. Maybe they will have a better chance now. And my advice to her is, don't marry a marine!!! It is sad, but marines have the most difficult time even befor they go overseas. I feel the marine corp needs to take a hard look at the way they treat their people. Because what ever they are doing to them isn't right, something needs to change.

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